Re: m-bib and crossref

["William D. Neumann" <wneumann@cs.unm.edu>]

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

> If you run ConTeXt one more time, you will get:
>
>   Jurjen N. E. Bos, and David Chaum, (1992). Provably unforgeable signatures.
>   In (Brickell, 1992), pages 1-14.
>
> The module inserts a 'default' \cite command for the referenced item.  This is
> exactly the behavior I intended, even if it is not compatible with LaTeX practise.
> Personally I like 'real' cross-referencing better than filling in fields in order to
> minimize the number of keystrokes in the BIB file.

I suppose that's a valid sentiment, although it saves many, many
keystrokes when your bib file is full of proceedings and journal articles.
Plus it looks fairly silly to reference the proceedings when you reference
only one or two of the articles in it (the same goes for books, journals,
etc.).  Oh well... until I'm willing to write my own package I suppose I
have to play along or go back to LaTeX.

> Unfortunately, there is an error in the code that prevents the referenced entry
> from automatically appearing in the publication list.
>
> A quick hack: replace '\completepublications' with
>
>   \setbox0\vbox{\placepublications}
>   \completepublications

Thanks, however there is a slight problem with this method: When I use
refcommand=num and numbering=yes (which is required for some
publications), then the crossreference in the article entry is corect,
e.g.

[4] Jurjen N. E. Bos, and David Chaum, (1992). Provably unforgeable
    signatures. In [11], pages 1-14.

However, the entry for the proceedings themselves have the wrong number,
they get reset and start over from 1 e.g.

[1] Ernest F. Brickell, , editor (1992). 12th Annual International
    Cryptology Conference, Santa Barbara, California, USA, August 16-20,
    1992, Proceedings, number 740 in Lecture Notes in Computer Science. ,
    Springer.

Do You know of any way around this, or am I just going to have to manually
edit the bbl file?

Two more questions:
1: Whenever a reference includes an editor, it is typeset as:
(Editor Name), , rest of reference (see above for example).  I've  tried
playing around with the various namesep settings, but I can't get rid of
that second ", " pair.  How do I get rid of it?

2: As you can see above, I've selected \normalauthor for the typesetting
of names in the references, however, whenever a publication has three or
more authors, the names are typest in the apa \invertedshortauthor format.
Is there some way to override this?

Thanks for the help and for the package -- I would hate to have to
manually create my list of references for every paper I write.

William D. Neumann

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