From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/14141 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "William D. Neumann" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: m-bib and crossref Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:00:08 -0700 (MST) Sender: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Message-ID: References: <6.0.0.22.2.20031127222152.03067c80@server-1> <32989.129.16.195.65.1069969132.squirrel@mail.medic.chalmers.se> <20031128103624.GA7890@physik.fu-berlin.de> <20031201114514.7079d9cd.taco@elvenkind.com> Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1070299063 24230 80.91.224.253 (1 Dec 2003 17:17:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:17:43 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Mon Dec 01 18:17:40 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from ref.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.13] helo=ref.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AQrg4-0000j6-00 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:17:40 +0100 Original-Received: from ref.ntg.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E8A10B03; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:17:36 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from mail.cs.unm.edu (webmail.cs.unm.edu [64.106.20.39]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2EE10B27 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:01:58 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from titan.cs.unm.edu ([64.106.21.26]) by mail.cs.unm.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AQrQc-0004Ht-00 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 10:01:42 -0700 Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl In-Reply-To: <20031201114514.7079d9cd.taco@elvenkind.com> X-Scanner: exiscan *1AQrQc-0004Ht-00*34Z/2U61cso* X-Scanner: exiscan *1AQrQc-0004Ht-00*34Z/2U61cso* X-Scanner: exiscan *1AQrQc-0004Ht-00*34Z/2U61cso* Errors-To: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:14141 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:14141 On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > If you run ConTeXt one more time, you will get: > > Jurjen N. E. Bos, and David Chaum, (1992). Provably unforgeable signatures. > In (Brickell, 1992), pages 1-14. > > The module inserts a 'default' \cite command for the referenced item. This is > exactly the behavior I intended, even if it is not compatible with LaTeX practise. > Personally I like 'real' cross-referencing better than filling in fields in order to > minimize the number of keystrokes in the BIB file. I suppose that's a valid sentiment, although it saves many, many keystrokes when your bib file is full of proceedings and journal articles. Plus it looks fairly silly to reference the proceedings when you reference only one or two of the articles in it (the same goes for books, journals, etc.). Oh well... until I'm willing to write my own package I suppose I have to play along or go back to LaTeX. > Unfortunately, there is an error in the code that prevents the referenced entry > from automatically appearing in the publication list. > > A quick hack: replace '\completepublications' with > > \setbox0\vbox{\placepublications} > \completepublications Thanks, however there is a slight problem with this method: When I use refcommand=num and numbering=yes (which is required for some publications), then the crossreference in the article entry is corect, e.g. [4] Jurjen N. E. Bos, and David Chaum, (1992). Provably unforgeable signatures. In [11], pages 1-14. However, the entry for the proceedings themselves have the wrong number, they get reset and start over from 1 e.g. [1] Ernest F. Brickell, , editor (1992). 12th Annual International Cryptology Conference, Santa Barbara, California, USA, August 16-20, 1992, Proceedings, number 740 in Lecture Notes in Computer Science. , Springer. Do You know of any way around this, or am I just going to have to manually edit the bbl file? Two more questions: 1: Whenever a reference includes an editor, it is typeset as: (Editor Name), , rest of reference (see above for example). I've tried playing around with the various namesep settings, but I can't get rid of that second ", " pair. How do I get rid of it? 2: As you can see above, I've selected \normalauthor for the typesetting of names in the references, however, whenever a publication has three or more authors, the names are typest in the apa \invertedshortauthor format. Is there some way to override this? Thanks for the help and for the package -- I would hate to have to manually create my list of references for every paper I write. William D. Neumann --- "Well I could be a genius, if I just put my mind to it. And I...I could do anything, if only I could get 'round to it. Oh we were brought up on the space-race, now they expect you to clean toilets. When you've seen how big the world is, how can you make do with this? If you want me, I'll be sleeping in - sleeping in throughout these glory days." -- Jarvis Cocker