From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/15549 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "William D. Neumann" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: docs Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 13:42:04 -0600 (MDT) Sender: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Message-ID: References: <6.1.1.1.2.20040601200608.01eb9640@server-1> <20040622161300.GA5608@swordfish> <34371.80.58.5.46.1087924408.squirrel@bitmail.bitmailer.com> <0D45B077-C4DA-11D8-972E-000A9595B57C@ensta.fr> <40D944A4.5030402@gmx.de> <43DEE2EE-C510-11D8-972E-000A9595B57C@ensta.fr> <72D4BC80-C612-11D8-9706-0030659899AA@fiee.net> Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1088106338 2747 80.91.224.253 (24 Jun 2004 19:45:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 19:45:38 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Thu Jun 24 21:45:17 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from ref.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.13] helo=ref.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bda9s-0004sV-00 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:45:16 +0200 Original-Received: from ref.ntg.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBFD10B54; Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:45:12 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from mail.cs.unm.edu (webmail.cs.unm.edu [64.106.20.39]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D2B10ABC for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:42:15 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from hobbs.cs.unm.edu ([64.106.21.108]) by mail.cs.unm.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bda6o-0000QC-00 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2004 13:42:06 -0600 Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl In-Reply-To: <72D4BC80-C612-11D8-9706-0030659899AA@fiee.net> X-Scanner: exiscan *1Bda6o-0000QC-00*a.tAMEs72eY* Errors-To: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:15549 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:15549 On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > Even if math is "typical" for TeX, it's not typical for ConTeXt. > > I think the typical university user is content with LaTeX. > ConTeXt is for those who like to design their own layout. And that's, unfortunately, a poor view to take. I would love to use ConTeXt for more of my academic writing, as it makes a lot of tasks much easier, not just layout and design. Unfortunately, it's inability to play like LaTeX when it comes to even such basic things as footnotes, means that I have to constantly turn back to LaTeX whenever I need to write something for work or school. > Again, I don't think that bibliographies are basic. > But I'm no scientific user. And for those of us who are, bibliographies are *crucial* and should be considered a basic part of any tpesetting program that wants to be taken seriously. And while m-bib is usually sufficient, it too has enough quirks that it's just not worth the time to even bother if you want to submit a paper that has a special format requirement for the bibliographies. William D. Neumann --- "Well I could be a genius, if I just put my mind to it. And I...I could do anything, if only I could get 'round to it. Oh we were brought up on the space-race, now they expect you to clean toilets. When you've seen how big the world is, how can you make do with this? If you want me, I'll be sleeping in - sleeping in throughout these glory days." -- Jarvis Cocker Think of XML as Lisp for COBOL programmers. -- Tony-A (some guy on /.)