From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/15523 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Holger_Sch=F6ner?= Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Re: ConTeXt-Wiki Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:29:09 +0200 (CEST) Sender: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Message-ID: References: <6.1.1.1.2.20040601200608.01eb9640@server-1> Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1088004827 24043 80.91.224.253 (23 Jun 2004 15:33:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:33:47 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Wed Jun 23 17:33:27 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from ref.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.13] helo=ref.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bd9kc-0005n0-00 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:33:26 +0200 Original-Received: from ref.ntg.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9080910B2F; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:33:23 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08BA10B2D for ; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:30:01 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from dunedain.cs.tu-berlin.de (dunedain.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.19.37]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13178 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:30:01 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dunedain.cs.tu-berlin.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140DE80C04 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:29:09 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: numenor@dunedain.cs.tu-berlin.de Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl In-Reply-To: Errors-To: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:15523 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:15523 Hello, On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, Patrick Gundlach wrote: > >> >> [starting ConTeXt wiki at] http://members.ping.de:8062/ > >> What kind of example documents do you think of? I guess that you know > >> that the magazines on the main ConTeXt site have their source code > >> included? > > I was thinking of all kinds of day-to-day documents, like the letter > > template I mentioned. I could not find one according to DIN-standards, so I > > did some trial-and-error experiments and created my own. > > What were the difficulties you ran into? One problem was on how to create a header with a different height for just one page for a letter template ... I needed some trickery (I don't recall it exactly, now) to make it work, and tried many things on the way. Another was the anchoring of layers, although for that I found some very helpful documentation (thanks, Hans, for the "Details"). And, as I'm no wizard in TeX, I had some problems with redefining in macros; I still do not know, whether these work for all cases now. > > Arguments for a collection could be: > > > > 1) Perhaps a comprehensive and classified collection of sample documents > > could spare others such time consuming trials. > > a) it is impossible to have a comprehensive collection of documents. > There are too many faces ConTeXt has. Okay, but it would be nice to have a starting point, instead of starting all projects from scratch. Didn't anybody write a letter for window-envelopes yet? > b) It is hard to classify the documents. Two possibilities: > > 1) layout trickery > macro hacking > itemize weirdness > crazy table fun > > or > > 2) letters > articles > poems > magazines/newspaper > > Any other? Which one makes sense? You are right. But from my perspective, the latter would make more sense. At least, I thought about such a collection being useful when I start a new project (e.g. a letter ...). Then I could look up, whether there is anything I can build on. For the trickery and stuff, there is the documentation (okay, these are not editable by everyone), and one could build a second hierarchy in the Wiki which contains simply links to helpful trickery in the other parts ... -- Holger F. Schoener TU Berlin; Dept. IV: EE and Computer Science hfsch@cs.tu-berlin.de http://www.cs.tu-berlin.de/~hfsch/ Rooms FR2525 Tel: +49-30-314-73115, Fax: -73121 Office FR 2-1 Franklinstr. 28/29, D-10587 Berlin, Germany