problems with bold small caps

problems with bold small caps

[Peter Münster]

Hello,

I would like to get bold small caps, here is my test-file:

\enableregime[il1]

\definebodyfont [12pt] [sc] [bf=ecxc1200]
\definebodyfont [11pt] [sc] [bf=ecxc1100]
\definebodyfont [10pt] [sc] [bf=ecxc1000]
\definebodyfont [9pt] [sc] [bf=ecxc0900]
\definebodyfont [8pt] [sc] [bf=ecxc0800]

\starttext
{\sc Normal and \bf bold Small-Caps. Accents: àÉßöÜ}
\stoptext


And here are my problems:

1.) I get bold sc font, but the normal \sc is now the normal font.

2.) It works only with dvi-output, with pdf I get:

kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 72 --mag 1+0/72 --dpi 72 ecxc1200
mktexpk: Mismatched mode ljfzzz and resolution 72; ignoring mode.
mktexpk: Can't guess mode for 72 dpi devices.
mktexpk: Use a config file, or update me.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.

Where should I tell pdfetex the right resolution?

3.) Accented characters are not correct.

4.) Could there be native support for bold small caps in the distribution?


TIA for any help!
Cheers, Peter

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Re: problems with bold small caps

[Adam Lindsay]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:

> I wrote:
> 
>> \sc and \bf are defined at the same level in ConTeXt, so they (normally)
>> exclude each other. My guess is that it is very unlikely that this will
>> be fixed, but ...
> 
> 
> make that
> 
>  > be changed, but ..
> 
> Because it is not a bug, the behaviour is intentional.

Yes, and it's what variants were intended to address, to "stack" font 
switching behaviour on top of known shapes and weights. Old Style 
sometimes exists in more than regular shapes. Small Caps appear in bold 
and sometimes even italics versions. (Variants were also to get at fonts 
that wouldn't normally have a style associated with them, as well.)

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Re: problems with bold small caps

[Vit Zyka]

Hans Hagen wrote:
> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>>
>> Peter M�nster wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>> {\sc Normal and \bf bold Small-Caps. Accents: �����}
>>> \stoptext
>>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>>> And here are my problems:
>>>
>>> 1.) I get bold sc font, but the normal \sc is now the normal font.
>>
>>
>>
>> \sc and \bf are defined at the same level in ConTeXt, so they (normally)
>> exclude each other. My guess is that it is very unlikely that this will
>> be fixed, but I assume it would be possible to do something using the
>> \variants mechanism (note: I am not sure and would not know how)
> 
> 
> thi sis an option indeed;

This is implemented at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Pseudo_Small_Caps
(links to files on typokvitek.com has to be retyped, sorry)

Vit

> the other method is just to define an 
> additional typeface
> 
> \definetypeface[mainface].....
> \definetypeface[smallface].....
> \definetypeface[osface].....
> 
> andthen do things like \smallface\bf
> 
> typeface switching is rather efficient
> 
> Hans
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Re: problems with bold small caps

[Hans Hagen]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:

>
>
> Peter M�nster wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>>
>> \starttext
>> {\sc Normal and \bf bold Small-Caps. Accents: �����}
>> \stoptext
>
>
> Hi Peter,
>
>> And here are my problems:
>>
>> 1.) I get bold sc font, but the normal \sc is now the normal font.
>
>
> \sc and \bf are defined at the same level in ConTeXt, so they (normally)
> exclude each other. My guess is that it is very unlikely that this will
> be fixed, but I assume it would be possible to do something using the
> \variants mechanism (note: I am not sure and would not know how)

thi sis an option indeed; the other method is just to define an 
additional typeface

\definetypeface[mainface].....
\definetypeface[smallface].....
\definetypeface[osface].....

andthen do things like \smallface\bf

typeface switching is rather efficient

Hans

Re: problems with bold small caps

[Taco Hoekwater]

I wrote:
> \sc and \bf are defined at the same level in ConTeXt, so they (normally)
> exclude each other. My guess is that it is very unlikely that this will
> be fixed, but ...

make that

 > be changed, but ..

Because it is not a bug, the behaviour is intentional.

Taco

Re: problems with bold small caps

[Taco Hoekwater]

Peter Münster wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
> \starttext
> {\sc Normal and \bf bold Small-Caps. Accents: àÉßöÜ}
> \stoptext

Hi Peter,

> And here are my problems:
> 
> 1.) I get bold sc font, but the normal \sc is now the normal font.

\sc and \bf are defined at the same level in ConTeXt, so they (normally)
exclude each other. My guess is that it is very unlikely that this will
be fixed, but I assume it would be possible to do something using the
\variants mechanism (note: I am not sure and would not know how)

> 2.) Accented characters are not correct.

My guess is that maybe the regime also switches the font encoding?
The ecXXXX fonts definately only exist in EC encoding.

Cheers, Taco