some small questions

some small questions

[Peter Münster]

Hello,
here comes a repost of some still unsolved (at least for me) questions:
- What is the best way, to get never the serif version of the euro, only the
  sans?
Test file:
\usemodule[symb-eur] \useregime[il9] \enableregime[il9]
\starttext
bla € bla
\stoptext

- What is the right syntax to get "hz,normal" ?
I tried \setupfonthandling[highquality] and \setupalign[hanging,hz] but
these two commands don't seem to change anything. Test file:

\starttext
\input tufte

\setupfonthandling[highquality]
\setupalign[hanging,hz]
\input tufte
\stoptext

TIA for any help!
Cheers, Peter

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Re: some small questions

[Alan Bowen]

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Peter—

On your second question, I use
	\usetypescript[serif,sans,mono,mm][hanging][normal]
	\setupalign[hz,hanging]
and place this in the preamble before the particular fonts are  
introduced/defined,

Alan

On Jan 7, 2006, at 8:05 AM, Peter Münster wrote:

> Hello,
> here comes a repost of some still unsolved (at least for me)  
> questions:
> - What is the best way, to get never the serif version of the euro,  
> only the
>   sans?
> Test file:
> \usemodule[symb-eur] \useregime[il9] \enableregime[il9]
> \starttext
> bla € bla
> \stoptext
>
> - What is the right syntax to get "hz,normal" ?
> I tried \setupfonthandling[highquality] and \setupalign[hanging,hz]  
> but
> these two commands don't seem to change anything. Test file:
>
> \starttext
> \input tufte
>
> \setupfonthandling[highquality]
> \setupalign[hanging,hz]
> \input tufte
> \stoptext
>
> TIA for any help!
> Cheers, Peter
>
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Re: some small questions

[Peter Münster]

On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, Alan Bowen wrote:

> On your second question, I use
> 	\usetypescript[serif,sans,mono,mm][hanging][normal]
> 	\setupalign[hz,hanging]
> and place this in the preamble before the particular fonts are  
> introduced/defined,

Could you please send a minimal example?
I tried

\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext

and

\usetypescript[serif,sans,mono,mm][hanging][normal]
\setupalign[hz,hanging]
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext

But I see no difference...
Cheers, Peter

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Re: some small questions

[Alan Bowen]

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Peter—

You must put
	\usetypescript[serif,sans,mono,mm][hanging][normal]
	\setupalign[hz,hanging]
before you define the font. In your example, these commands are  
coming after the default is identified. This means that if you want  
to get margin kerning and so forth with Latin Modern, you must  
actually re-specify Latin Modern.

In your preamble, try

%%%%	  Margin Kerning and Font Expansion
\usetypescript[serif,sans,mono,mm][hanging][normal]
\setupalign[hz,hanging]
\setupfootnotes[align={hz,hanging}]

% install Latin Modern
% we must install margin kerning before the font is loaded: since  
Computer Modern is
% loaded before our definitions, we must load it again

\usetypescript [all] [latin-modern] [texnansi]
\setupbodyfont[reset]
\definebodyfont [10.5pt,9.5pt] [rm,ss,tt,mm] [default]
\setupbodyfont[lm,10.5pt]


This works for me. I hope it does for you too.

Cheers, Alan



On Jan 7, 2006, at 9:10 AM, Peter Münster wrote:

> On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, Alan Bowen wrote:
>
>> On your second question, I use
>> 	\usetypescript[serif,sans,mono,mm][hanging][normal]
>> 	\setupalign[hz,hanging]
>> and place this in the preamble before the particular fonts are
>> introduced/defined,
>
> Could you please send a minimal example?
> I tried
>
> \starttext
> \input tufte
> \stoptext
>
> and
>
> \usetypescript[serif,sans,mono,mm][hanging][normal]
> \setupalign[hz,hanging]
> \starttext
> \input tufte
> \stoptext
>
> But I see no difference...
> Cheers, Peter
>
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Re: some small questions

[Peter Münster]

On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, Alan Bowen wrote:

> \usetypescript[serif,sans,mono,mm][hanging][normal]
> \setupalign[hz,hanging]
> \setupfootnotes[align={hz,hanging}]
> 
> \usetypescript [all] [latin-modern] [texnansi]
> \setupbodyfont[reset]
> \definebodyfont [10.5pt,9.5pt] [rm,ss,tt,mm] [default]
> \setupbodyfont[lm,10.5pt]

Hello Alan,
thanks for this example, yes it works now! I played a bit with your
command-lines and found, that \usetypescript[all]... and
\setupbodyfont[reset] are not needed.
I understand serif, sans and mono, but what is "mm" ?

Now I understand, why hz and hanging are not default: compile time is even
longer now! ;-)

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Re: some small questions

[Peter Münster]

On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, Peter Münster wrote:

> I understand serif, sans and mono, but what is "mm" ?

Ok, I asked too fast... Seems to be math!
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Re: some small questions

[Peter Münster]

On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> Just a question: how is the symbol that you get if you compile
> \starttext
> \texteuro
> \stoptext
> on live.contextgarden.net?

Hello Mojca,
the symbol is "sans".
Here a better example, to show what I want:

\usemodule[symb-eur]
\def\SomeEuros{\blank[small] normal \texteuro, {\sl slanted \texteuro},
  {\bf bold \texteuro}, {\bs bold slanted \texteuro}
  {\tt tt \texteuro}, {\bf\tt bold tt \texteuro}}
\starttext
\ss here some sans euros: \SomeEuros \blank[big]
\rm and here I want the same (sans, but they are serif): \SomeEuros
\stoptext

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Re: some small questions

[Peter Münster]

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006, Peter Münster wrote:

> \usemodule[symb-eur]
> \def\SomeEuros{\blank[small] normal \texteuro, {\sl slanted \texteuro},
>   {\bf bold \texteuro}, {\bs bold slanted \texteuro}
>   {\tt tt \texteuro}, {\bf\tt bold tt \texteuro}}
> \starttext
> \ss here some sans euros: \SomeEuros \blank[big]
> \rm and here I want the same (sans, but they are serif): \SomeEuros
> \stoptext

Of course, I can do
\let\texteuroO\texteuro
\def\texteuro{{\ss\texteuroO}}
the question is just: what is the ConTeXt-way to do it.

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Re: some small questions

[Mojca Miklavec]

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On 1/8/06, Peter Münster wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2006, Peter Münster wrote:
>
> > \usemodule[symb-eur]
> > \def\SomeEuros{\blank[small] normal \texteuro, {\sl slanted \texteuro},
> >   {\bf bold \texteuro}, {\bs bold slanted \texteuro}
> >   {\tt tt \texteuro}, {\bf\tt bold tt \texteuro}}
> > \starttext
> > \ss here some sans euros: \SomeEuros \blank[big]
> > \rm and here I want the same (sans, but they are serif): \SomeEuros
> > \stoptext
>
> Of course, I can do
> \let\texteuroO\texteuro
> \def\texteuro{{\ss\texteuroO}}
> the question is just: what is the ConTeXt-way to do it.

I don't have the fonts that are used by symb-eur, so I can't test your
file, but my guess is that:
- if you only want the official euro symbol, don't even load the
package (but euro may not fit well with the font you're using)
- if you would like to keep slanted/bold version of the font and if
symb-eur satisfies your needs except that you want the sans version,
one possibility is to rewrite the package:

A long version is to change:

\definefontsynonym [EuroSerif]            [eurose]
\definefontsynonym [EuroSerifBold]        [euroseb]
\definefontsynonym [EuroSerifItalic]      [eurosei]
\definefontsynonym [EuroSerifSlanted]     [eurosei]
\definefontsynonym [EuroSerifBoldItalic]  [eurosebi]
\definefontsynonym [EuroSerifBoldSlanted] [eurosebi]

into:

\definefontsynonym [EuroSerif]            [EuroSans]
\definefontsynonym [EuroSerifBold]        [EuroSansBold]
\definefontsynonym [EuroSerifItalic]      [EuroSansItalic]
\definefontsynonym [EuroSerifSlanted]     [EuroSansSlanted]
\definefontsynonym [EuroSerifBoldItalic]  [EuroSansBoldItalic]
\definefontsynonym [EuroSerifBoldSlanted] [EuroSansBoldSlanted]

An alternative to the command you provided (but with the same
functionality and approximately just as long as yours):

% \startencoding[default] % don't know if this is needed or not
  \definecharacter texteuro {{\ss\symbol[euro]}}
% \stopencoding

Mojca

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Re: some small questions

[Peter Münster]

On Mon, 9 Jan 2006, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

>   \definecharacter texteuro {{\ss\symbol[euro]}}

Yes, this is nice!
Thanks, Peter

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