From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/21356 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hartmut Henkel Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Paragraph internal graphic/layout inquiry. Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:06:22 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: References: <42D4C175.5060102@elvenkind.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1121278148 17769 80.91.229.2 (13 Jul 2005 18:09:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 18:09:08 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Jul 13 20:08:59 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dslej-0000yv-L4 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:08:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509D0127C4; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:08:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 30438-01; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:08:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357E8127C1; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:06:28 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1AC127C1 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:06:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 30220-02 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:06:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id A144F127A8 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:06:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Jul 2005 18:06:24 -0000 Original-Received: from p54AC0FF8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO hahepc1.hahe) [84.172.15.248] by mail.gmx.net (mp025) with SMTP; 13 Jul 2005 20:06:24 +0200 X-Authenticated: #6218946 Original-Received: from hahe (helo=localhost) by hahepc1.hahe with local-esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Dslck-00015H-DA for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:06:22 +0200 Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <42D4C175.5060102@elvenkind.com> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on smtp.ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:21356 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:21356 On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > David Wooten wrote: > > Mr. Tufte has an interesting example from da Vinci: http:// > > trichotomic.net/Leonardo.jpg (76k). Is this type of layout currently > > possible (or perhaps a better question, wieldy) within ConTeXt? > > In a standard TeX installation, it is not possible to make this type > of paragraph without massive amounts of manual intervention, because > TeX's paragraphs cannot (normally) contain holes. FWIW, there is a pointer to a similar problem in DEK's "Digital Typography", chapter 9: "Problem for a Saturday Morning", published in TUGboat 8 (1987) (Harmless title for the amount of macros piling up there :-) An article from Alan Hoenig is also mentioned, which can be found there: http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb08-2/tb18hoenig.pdf Regards, Hartmut