From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/14238 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Zunbeltz Izaola Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: ConTeXt-live distribution Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:29:36 +0100 (MET) Sender: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Message-ID: References: <24B8F8D6-2B10-11D8-9AF5-000A9595B57C@ensta.fr> Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1071063485 13458 80.91.224.253 (10 Dec 2003 13:38:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:38:05 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Wed Dec 10 14:38:01 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from ref.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.13] helo=ref.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AU4XR-0002i1-00 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:38:01 +0100 Original-Received: from ref.ntg.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23ABD10ACC; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:37:51 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from lcdx00.wm.lc.ehu.es (lcdx00.wm.lc.ehu.es [158.227.5.12]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 88A2110ACC for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:29:39 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: (qmail 4804 invoked by uid 30042); 10 Dec 2003 13:29:36 -0000 Original-Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Dec 2003 13:29:36 -0000 Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl In-Reply-To: <24B8F8D6-2B10-11D8-9AF5-000A9595B57C@ensta.fr> Errors-To: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:14238 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:14238 On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Maurice Diamantini wrote: > > Le 10 d=E9c. 03, =E0 11:39, Patrick Gundlach a =E9crit : > > > Bob Kerstetter writes: > >> ... that a user like me with no root access > >> might encounter to get the system to run. In short, someone who can > >> lead me in small steps through the installation process." > >> > >> Do such instructions already exist? Or, if someone can provide that > >> type of help, please contact me offlist and I'll put y'all together. > > > > I have put some instructions at http://levana.de/context/ I could > > help with installation steps. > > I think Hans provided a limited version for a context standalone > distribution. > But I had problem for install it (whith perl) so I give up. > > Also the standard tetex distribution provided with fink (on MacOSX-10.3) > did'n work for me (some itemize bug), and I had to install the texlive > distribution. > > The texlive is very nice because it is complete. But it is very heavy > (only the demo version old on a single CD-ROM : the full texlive > take 1.2 Go and need a DVD !) > I don't have the distribution in the hand, but i think the full texlive is in a DVD, beacause in the same DVD there is a copy of CTAN. I think a runing copy of TeXLive can be extracted from this DVD to a CD-ROM ( or two) > Because it contains all old stuff that any LaTeX/TeX distribution should > contain to be compatible with every TeX based document from the > last few decade ;-) > - every package which was ever able to do multicols > - every package which allows to do clever table > - every package which allows to do verbatim, ... > > But ConTeXt is an independant, modern TeX based distribution (even if > it don't (yet) know about simple html :-). > > So was do we need to be able to switch from LaTeX to ConTeXt? > - a simple standard tetex distib for our old LaTeX document > - a standalone ConTeXt distribution similar to the texlive > in the idea > > This ConTeXt-live should be multiplatform and contain: > - all uptodate reference doc about ConTeXt tools > - all available exemples or model documents > - all contrib extention (m-bib, math, ...) > - the TeX/Metapost and perl distribution. > - all tools (xml, html, ....) > > This could be distibute as iso image and could be > use as simple (no privilege) user. > > This would also make much easier to give acces to context to > beginer (without the need of texmf experience). > > I'm a ConTeXt beginer, but i think that texmf is necesary, expecially for fonts, isn't it? > Also, what is missing for ConTeXt versus LaTeX > 1 - some good LaTeX class emulation > (a simple "table of content" is uggli in ConTeXt) > 2 - some exemples for writing mathemaics using the new Giuseppe > math packages > 3 - some mean to write xml or html FROM ConTeXt (and NOT the reverse!) > 3 - some package or binding to Lilypond (for writing music/midi and xml) > 4 - ... > chears, Zunbeltz