From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/25165 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aditya Mahajan Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Reg. fonts and math Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 03:36:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: References: <20060112005520.GA4476@localhost> <43C6113F.5070706@wxs.nl> <43C69632.1040906@wxs.nl> <43C7EA79.5020606@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1137227785 3573 80.91.229.2 (14 Jan 2006 08:36:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 08:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sat Jan 14 09:36:23 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Exgta-0004IH-El for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:36:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050BC12823; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:36:22 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12891-06-5; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:36:19 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F5F127EC; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:36:19 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A857E127EC for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:36:18 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12891-06-4 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:36:17 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from withoutevidence.mr.itd.umich.edu (withoutevidence.mr.itd.umich.edu [141.211.93.147]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EE7C12788 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:36:14 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from aditya.annarb01.mi.comcast.net (bgp996717bgs.nanarb01.mi.comcast.net [68.40.50.205]) by withoutevidence.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp) with ESMTP id k0E8aDHg020294 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 03:36:13 -0500 Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:25165 Archived-At: <--- On Jan 13, Aditya Mahajan wrote ---> > <--- On Jan 13, Hans Hagen wrote ---> > >> Aditya Mahajan wrote: >> >>> No, I mean the complicated math is much harder in context. Consider >>> >>> \begin{align} >>> a &= b \\ >>> c &= d \notag \\ >>> &= f \notag \\ >>> &= g >>> \end{align} >>> >>> which will typeset as >>> >>> a = b (1) >>> c = d >>> = f >>> = g (2) >>> >>> \begin{subequations} >>> \begin{align} >>> a &= b \\ >>> c &= d >>> \end{align} >>> \end{subequations} >>> >>> Compare this from how to do this in context (see the wiki). You have to >>> *manually* set the number of the subequation. Actually, for equation >>> numbering and refering, the context way is rather limited. Consider >>> something like an align environment >>> >>> a &= b\\ >>> c &= d\\ >>> e &= f >>> >>> Suppose, I want to refer to the second equation. In latex, I can simply >>> add \label{eq:2} and the end of c&= d and then \ref{eq:2}. For context, >>> the reference label goes at the top, with \placeformula[eqs]. But I am not >>> sure, how to give individual labels to each equations. >> >> this 'loose label' is one of the ugliest concept i can think of -) > > If you come up with any other way, I will be glad to use it. Frankly, I do > not think that the latex syntax is the best, but plain tex looks too > indimidating and context does not have anything yet. > >> btw, defaulting to numbers and then using \notag is messy; i prefer >> readable code, even if it takes more bytes; inventing a formula takes >> more time than keying it in. Also, more structure, means more hooks for >> configurability > > Fine by me. Your method is perfectly acceptable. > >> much if this 'complicated' math is not that complicated to support,see >> attached file > > Wonderful. I did not know that something like this can be done so easily in > context. > >> i'm willing to implement anything reasonable but since i hardly use such >> math i only act on 'i want to achieve this' kind of specs (i have no time >> to read tons of tex documents) > > Here are features that I would want context math to have. I do not care about > the input syntax (whether it is same as latex or not) as long as the features > are there. > > [snipped] One more request. Allow these align, gather environments to break across a page. Allow the user some kind of customization, whether the break can occur at a particular location or not. -- Aditya Mahajan, EECS Systems, University of Michigan http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam || Ph: 7342624008