* setupitemize confusion @ 2006-07-26 21:58 Steffen Wolfrum 2006-07-27 5:32 ` Aditya Mahajan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2006-07-26 21:58 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi, both paragraph should be indented 12 pt. But there are different: \starttext \startitemize[width=12pt] \sym{\endash}\input tufte \stopitemize \setupitemize[width=12pt] \sym{\endash}\input tufte \stoptext How do I make the second the same as the first? Steffen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: setupitemize confusion 2006-07-26 21:58 setupitemize confusion Steffen Wolfrum @ 2006-07-27 5:32 ` Aditya Mahajan 2006-07-27 5:54 ` Steffen Wolfrum 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2006-07-27 5:32 UTC (permalink / raw) On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > Hi, > > both paragraph should be indented 12 pt. But there are different: > > \starttext > > \startitemize[width=12pt] > \sym{\endash}\input tufte > \stopitemize > > \setupitemize[width=12pt] > \sym{\endash}\input tufte > > \stoptext > > > How do I make the second the same as the first? Shouldn't you wrap the second one with \startstop itemize? \setupitemize[width=12pt] \startitemize \sym{\endash}\input tufte \stopitemize Aditya ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: setupitemize confusion 2006-07-27 5:32 ` Aditya Mahajan @ 2006-07-27 5:54 ` Steffen Wolfrum 2006-07-27 6:05 ` Aditya Mahajan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2006-07-27 5:54 UTC (permalink / raw) Am 27.07.2006 um 07:32 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: > On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> both paragraph should be indented 12 pt. But there are different: >> >> \starttext >> >> \startitemize[width=12pt] >> \sym{\endash}\input tufte >> \stopitemize >> >> \setupitemize[width=12pt] >> \sym{\endash}\input tufte >> >> \stoptext >> >> >> How do I make the second the same as the first? > > Shouldn't you wrap the second one with \startstop itemize? > > \setupitemize[width=12pt] > \startitemize > \sym{\endash}\input tufte > \stopitemize > > Aditya Well, I hope not! As far as I understood the manual (cont-eni) one can use \item and \sym also without the start-stop environment: in cases where it is just needed as one entry (not a list). This works, somehow. But is there no setup possible? I need it in a bibliography: the normal entries "author, title etc. maybe two lines" are hangindented with \hangafter=1\hangindent=12pt. But when a author has two or more titles it is written "- title etc. maybe two lines". And here the "- " must be the same space as the hangindent (12pt), as one can imagine easily. That's why I used a \item res. \sym for this. And a start/stop each would make the code quite chaotic. But maybe there is even another solution for this construction, even better? Steffen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: setupitemize confusion 2006-07-27 5:54 ` Steffen Wolfrum @ 2006-07-27 6:05 ` Aditya Mahajan 2006-07-27 6:17 ` Steffen Wolfrum 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2006-07-27 6:05 UTC (permalink / raw) On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > > Am 27.07.2006 um 07:32 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: > >> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> both paragraph should be indented 12 pt. But there are different: >>> >>> \starttext >>> >>> \startitemize[width=12pt] >>> \sym{\endash}\input tufte >>> \stopitemize >>> >>> \setupitemize[width=12pt] >>> \sym{\endash}\input tufte >>> >>> \stoptext >>> >>> >>> How do I make the second the same as the first? >> >> Shouldn't you wrap the second one with \startstop itemize? >> >> \setupitemize[width=12pt] >> \startitemize >> \sym{\endash}\input tufte >> \stopitemize >> >> Aditya > > > > Well, I hope not! > > As far as I understood the manual (cont-eni) one can use \item and > \sym also without the start-stop environment: in cases where it is > just needed as one entry (not a list). > This works, somehow. But is there no setup possible? > > I need it in a bibliography: the normal entries "author, title etc. > maybe two lines" are hangindented with \hangafter=1\hangindent=12pt. > But when a author has two or more titles it is written "- title etc. > maybe two lines". And here the "- " must be the same space as the > hangindent (12pt), as one can imagine easily. > That's why I used a \item res. \sym for this. And a start/stop each > would make the code quite chaotic. > > But maybe there is even another solution for this construction, even > better? Ask Taco to implement this in the bib module :-) Aditya ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: setupitemize confusion 2006-07-27 6:05 ` Aditya Mahajan @ 2006-07-27 6:17 ` Steffen Wolfrum 2006-07-27 6:57 ` Renaud AUBIN 2006-07-27 7:11 ` Renaud AUBIN 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2006-07-27 6:17 UTC (permalink / raw) Am 27.07.2006 um 08:05 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: > On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > >> >> Am 27.07.2006 um 07:32 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: >> >>> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> both paragraph should be indented 12 pt. But there are different: >>>> >>>> \starttext >>>> >>>> \startitemize[width=12pt] >>>> \sym{\endash}\input tufte >>>> \stopitemize >>>> >>>> \setupitemize[width=12pt] >>>> \sym{\endash}\input tufte >>>> >>>> \stoptext >>>> >>>> >>>> How do I make the second the same as the first? >>> >>> Shouldn't you wrap the second one with \startstop itemize? >>> >>> \setupitemize[width=12pt] >>> \startitemize >>> \sym{\endash}\input tufte >>> \stopitemize >>> >>> Aditya >> >> >> >> Well, I hope not! >> >> As far as I understood the manual (cont-eni) one can use \item and >> \sym also without the start-stop environment: in cases where it is >> just needed as one entry (not a list). >> This works, somehow. But is there no setup possible? >> >> I need it in a bibliography: the normal entries "author, title etc. >> maybe two lines" are hangindented with \hangafter=1\hangindent=12pt. >> But when a author has two or more titles it is written "- title etc. >> maybe two lines". And here the "- " must be the same space as the >> hangindent (12pt), as one can imagine easily. >> That's why I used a \item res. \sym for this. And a start/stop each >> would make the code quite chaotic. >> >> But maybe there is even another solution for this construction, even >> better? > > Ask Taco to implement this in the bib module :-) The bib module won't help (I assume): the bibliography is already typed, not generated. Steffen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: setupitemize confusion 2006-07-27 6:17 ` Steffen Wolfrum @ 2006-07-27 6:57 ` Renaud AUBIN 2006-07-27 7:43 ` Taco Hoekwater 2006-07-27 7:11 ` Renaud AUBIN 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Renaud AUBIN @ 2006-07-27 6:57 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 344 bytes --] Steffen Wolfrum a écrit : >The bib module won't help (I assume): the bibliography is already >typed, not generated. > >Steffen > > Hi Steffen, Aditya, I'm agree with Aditya, Taco can surely help on this point... I'm also interested by this feature (to Taco: since IEEE bib formatting follows it ;) ) Cheers, Renaud [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 786 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 139 bytes --] _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: setupitemize confusion 2006-07-27 6:57 ` Renaud AUBIN @ 2006-07-27 7:43 ` Taco Hoekwater 2006-07-27 7:50 ` Renaud AUBIN 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2006-07-27 7:43 UTC (permalink / raw) Renaud AUBIN wrote: > Steffen Wolfrum a écrit : > >>The bib module won't help (I assume): the bibliography is already >>typed, not generated. >> >>Steffen >> >> > > Hi Steffen, Aditya, > > I'm agree with Aditya, Taco can surely help on this point... > I'm also interested by this feature (to Taco: since IEEE bib formatting > follows it ;) ) It would not be very hard to add this feature to the module, but that will probably not help Steffen in this case. Taco ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: setupitemize confusion 2006-07-27 7:43 ` Taco Hoekwater @ 2006-07-27 7:50 ` Renaud AUBIN 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Renaud AUBIN @ 2006-07-27 7:50 UTC (permalink / raw) Taco Hoekwater a écrit : >It would not be very hard to add this feature to the module, >but that will probably not help Steffen in this case. > >Taco > > Yes, but you're also a ConTeXt guru, no ? ;) PS to Taco: No more time for #context ? Renaud ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: setupitemize confusion 2006-07-27 6:17 ` Steffen Wolfrum 2006-07-27 6:57 ` Renaud AUBIN @ 2006-07-27 7:11 ` Renaud AUBIN 2006-07-27 7:50 ` Steffen Wolfrum 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Renaud AUBIN @ 2006-07-27 7:11 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2304 bytes --] Hi Steffen, Can you provide some working sample code (two or three typical entries + wrap with \start/stopitemize) ? Is your bibliography big ? I assume your this work is urgent and you can't make a .bib, right ? Renaud Steffen Wolfrum a écrit : >Am 27.07.2006 um 08:05 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: > > > >>On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: >> >> >> >>>Am 27.07.2006 um 07:32 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: >>> >>> >>> >>>>On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi, >>>>> >>>>>both paragraph should be indented 12 pt. But there are different: >>>>> >>>>>\starttext >>>>> >>>>>\startitemize[width=12pt] >>>>>\sym{\endash}\input tufte >>>>>\stopitemize >>>>> >>>>>\setupitemize[width=12pt] >>>>>\sym{\endash}\input tufte >>>>> >>>>>\stoptext >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>How do I make the second the same as the first? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Shouldn't you wrap the second one with \startstop itemize? >>>> >>>>\setupitemize[width=12pt] >>>>\startitemize >>>>\sym{\endash}\input tufte >>>>\stopitemize >>>> >>>>Aditya >>>> >>>> >>> >>>Well, I hope not! >>> >>>As far as I understood the manual (cont-eni) one can use \item and >>>\sym also without the start-stop environment: in cases where it is >>>just needed as one entry (not a list). >>>This works, somehow. But is there no setup possible? >>> >>>I need it in a bibliography: the normal entries "author, title etc. >>>maybe two lines" are hangindented with \hangafter=1\hangindent=12pt. >>>But when a author has two or more titles it is written "- title etc. >>>maybe two lines". And here the "- " must be the same space as the >>>hangindent (12pt), as one can imagine easily. >>>That's why I used a \item res. \sym for this. And a start/stop each >>>would make the code quite chaotic. >>> >>>But maybe there is even another solution for this construction, even >>>better? >>> >>> >>Ask Taco to implement this in the bib module :-) >> >> > > >The bib module won't help (I assume): the bibliography is already >typed, not generated. > >Steffen > >_______________________________________________ >ntg-context mailing list >ntg-context@ntg.nl >http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > > > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2913 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 139 bytes --] _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: setupitemize confusion 2006-07-27 7:11 ` Renaud AUBIN @ 2006-07-27 7:50 ` Steffen Wolfrum 2006-07-27 8:36 ` Taco Hoekwater 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2006-07-27 7:50 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi Renaud, sure, here it is: \starttext \def\Textit{\groupedcommand\it\/} \def\hangover{\hangafter=1\hangindent=16pt } \hangover\Textit{Badura, Peter:} Parlamentarismus und parteienstaatliche Demokratie, in: Pawlowski, Hans{|-|}Martin{|/|} Wieacker, Franz (Hrsg.), Festschrift für Karl Michaelis zum 70. Geburtstag, Göttingen 1972, S. 9ff. \hangover{\endash} Die parlamentarische Verantwortlichkeit\index {Verantwortlichkeit} der Minister, ZParl 1980, S. 573ff. \hangover{\endash} Staatsrecht, 3. Aufl., München 2003. \hangover{\endash} Die parlamentarische Demokratie, in: Isensee, Josef {|/|}Kirchhof, Paul (Hrsg.), Handbuch des Staatsrechts der Bundesrepublik Deutschland, Bd. II, 3. Aufl., Heidelberg 2004, § 25. \stoptext You see what is needed? Steffen Am 27.07.2006 um 09:11 schrieb Renaud AUBIN: > Hi Steffen, > > Can you provide some working sample code (two or three typical > entries + wrap with \start/stopitemize) ? > Is your bibliography big ? I assume your this work is urgent and > you can't make a .bib, right ? > > Renaud > > Steffen Wolfrum a écrit : >> Am 27.07.2006 um 08:05 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: >>> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: >>>> Am 27.07.2006 um 07:32 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: >>>>> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: >>>>>> Hi, both paragraph should be indented 12 pt. But there are >>>>>> different: \starttext \startitemize[width=12pt] \sym{\endash} >>>>>> \input tufte \stopitemize \setupitemize[width=12pt] \sym >>>>>> {\endash}\input tufte \stoptext How do I make the second the >>>>>> same as the first? >>>>> Shouldn't you wrap the second one with \startstop itemize? >>>>> \setupitemize[width=12pt] \startitemize \sym{\endash}\input >>>>> tufte \stopitemize Aditya >>>> Well, I hope not! As far as I understood the manual (cont-eni) >>>> one can use \item and \sym also without the start-stop >>>> environment: in cases where it is just needed as one entry (not >>>> a list). This works, somehow. But is there no setup possible? I >>>> need it in a bibliography: the normal entries "author, title >>>> etc. maybe two lines" are hangindented with \hangafter=1 >>>> \hangindent=12pt. But when a author has two or more titles it is >>>> written "- title etc. maybe two lines". And here the "- " must >>>> be the same space as the hangindent (12pt), as one can imagine >>>> easily. That's why I used a \item res. \sym for this. And a >>>> start/stop each would make the code quite chaotic. But maybe >>>> there is even another solution for this construction, even better? >>> Ask Taco to implement this in the bib module :-) >> The bib module won't help (I assume): the bibliography is already >> typed, not generated. Steffen >> _______________________________________________ ntg-context >> mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ >> ntg-context > > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context@ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: setupitemize confusion 2006-07-27 7:50 ` Steffen Wolfrum @ 2006-07-27 8:36 ` Taco Hoekwater 2006-07-27 8:58 ` Steffen Wolfrum 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2006-07-27 8:36 UTC (permalink / raw) Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > Hi Renaud, > > sure, here it is: > > > \starttext > > \def\Textit{\groupedcommand\it\/} > \def\hangover{\hangafter=1\hangindent=16pt } Try this: \def\dashauthor {\leavevmode\hbox to 16pt{\endash\hss}\ignorespaces} \hangover{\dashauthor} Die parlamentarische ... Cheers, taco ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: setupitemize confusion 2006-07-27 8:36 ` Taco Hoekwater @ 2006-07-27 8:58 ` Steffen Wolfrum 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2006-07-27 8:58 UTC (permalink / raw) Very nice! Thank you Taco. Steffen Am 27.07.2006 um 10:36 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: > > > Steffen Wolfrum wrote: >> Hi Renaud, >> >> sure, here it is: >> >> >> \starttext >> >> \def\Textit{\groupedcommand\it\/} >> \def\hangover{\hangafter=1\hangindent=16pt } > > > Try this: > > \def\dashauthor > {\leavevmode\hbox to 16pt{\endash\hss}\ignorespaces} > > \hangover{\dashauthor} Die parlamentarische ... > > Cheers, taco > > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context@ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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