From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/30382 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aditya Mahajan Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: typeface question: no small capped Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 00:12:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: References: <19AAF825-FB2C-4AEF-92D3-E8F01B9CADB2@uni-bonn.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1155874366 21589 80.91.229.2 (18 Aug 2006 04:12:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 04:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Aug 18 06:12:44 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GDvip-0002uR-Q1 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 06:12:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861D61FEAD; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 06:12:38 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26326-07; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 06:12:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28601FE97; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 06:12:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697EF1FE97 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 06:12:28 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26356-06 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 06:12:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from hellskitchen.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.14.82]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 979B31FE91 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 06:12:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: FROM aditya.annarb01.mi.comcast.net (c-68-40-50-205.hsd1.mi.comcast.net [68.40.50.205]) BY hellskitchen.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 44E53E22.B585A.29363 ; 18 Aug 2006 00:12:20 -0400 Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <19AAF825-FB2C-4AEF-92D3-E8F01B9CADB2@uni-bonn.de> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:30382 Archived-At: On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > > On Aug 16, 2006, at 11:27 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > >> >> I want to write a conference paper according to IEEE (latex) format, >> and this involves copying all the bad font choices in IEEEtran.cls >> (Times text, cm math, ughh...). I need smallcaps only for section >> titles, so right now I am doing a local switch to latin modern for the >> section titles. This is what IEEEtran.cls also does. Do you think that >> faking smallcaps from Times will look better? If so, how can I fake >> smallcaps? >> >> Thanks, >> Aditya > > Faking is already implemented: \kap{foo} (see cont-eni, chapter 5.7). Why is there no "true" faking. I mean with \kap (or \cap or \smallcapped, all of which are the same), the faked text does not look like small caps. Compare the output of {\sc Introduction Again} \smallcapped{Introduction Again} Why is there nothing along the lines of the following (unless I missed something in core-fnt.tex) \def\mysmallcapped{\let\processword\domysmallcapped\processwords} \def\domysmallcapped#1{\startdomysmallcapped#1\stopdomysmallcapped} \def\startdomysmallcapped#1#2\stopdomysmallcapped{\cap{#1\cap{#2}}} \mysmallcapped{Introduction Again} I agree that this does not look great, but does look better than using lm small caps with times text. > You decide if this is uglier than using latin modern for section > titles. I have actually bought a couple of professional fonts, and > once you've seen the real McCoy, you'll find the fake ones repulsive. > But most people won't even realize, I guess. Sad but true. Hopefully the STIX fonts will be released[1] and I will be able to use real small caps with a times like font. Aditya [1] I checked their website and it was updated yesterday. Looks like they will finally make a release :)