Problems with Mark IV (MacTeX 2009)

Problems with Mark IV (MacTeX 2009)

[David Abdurachmanov]

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Hi,
After finding out that line numbering works different in Mark IV I tried using this version on Mac OS X via MacTeX 2009. I modified TeXworks to use "texexec --lua $filename" as for ConTeXt. I have updated MacTeX to latest version and actually I still cant' make it work. I tried following this guide: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Install_Mark_IV Except I didn't set any environment variables and ctxtools fails: CtxTools | unable to fetch cont-tmf.zip
When updating MacTeX I got multiple failed messages in log regarding luatex, pdftext and etc. Overall all update failed in MacTex re-configuration.
I will can make standard ConTeXt document (don't know how to call them), but not the new ones with Lua support (Mark IV, I think it's called).
It looks like Mark IV does not work by default?
Thanks,david 		 	   		  
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Re: Problems with Mark IV (MacTeX 2009)

[Hans Hagen]

On 25-6-2010 9:06, David Abdurachmanov wrote:

> After finding out that line numbering works different in Mark IV I tried using this version on Mac OS X via MacTeX 2009. I modified TeXworks to use "texexec --lua $filename" as for ConTeXt. I have updated MacTeX to latest version and actually I still cant' make it work. I tried following this guide: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Install_Mark_IV Except I didn't set any environment variables and ctxtools fails: CtxTools | unable to fetch cont-tmf.zip
> When updating MacTeX I got multiple failed messages in log regarding luatex, pdftext and etc. Overall all update failed in MacTex re-configuration.
> I will can make standard ConTeXt document (don't know how to call them), but not the new ones with Lua support (Mark IV, I think it's called).
> It looks like Mark IV does not work by default?

First this:

- the right command to run mkiv is 'context' and in an editor you can 
best use:

   mtxrun --script context --autogenerate .....

   or just

   context --autogenerate .....

- formats are generated automatically (also after an update) so that 
should be no problem

- the same is true for the font database

- you can still process mkii documents if you add

   % engine=pdtfex

at the top of your file (eventually i'll do the bit that mkii needs in 
lua as wel so that we no longer need ruby)

Now concerning texworks. The problem is that (at least last time i 
looked into it which is quite a while ago) much is hard coded and that 
configurations files are auto generated. And, as it's mostly a latex 
oriented editor, it's hard to make it context friendly.

There is "mtxrun --script texworks --start" that (at least on windows) 
should start up texworks in 'context only' mode. There are configuration 
files in the distribution under <root>/context/data that you can give a 
try.

Hans

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Re: Problems with Mark IV (MacTeX 2009)

[Mojca Miklavec]

2010/6/25 David Abdurachmanov wrote:
> Hi,
> After finding out that line numbering works different in Mark IV I tried
> using this version on Mac OS X via MacTeX 2009.

Don't. MacTeX 2009 doesn't work with Mark IV, and even if it would,
it's waaaaay too old.

If you want to install and use MacTeX, download it from one of the
servers mentioned in
    http://tug.org/texlive/pretest.html

For example this one:
    http://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/tlpretest/

But it's probably better to also try to install ConTeXt minimals (you
can easily switch between both - you just need to set PATH in
.bash_profile or on the fly).

I didn't install MacTeX this time, but rather a normal TeX Live with
ConTeXt scheme (2GB was a lot).

Mojca
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Re: Problems with Mark IV (MacTeX 2009)

[David Abdurachmanov]

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I had earlier problems with line numbering, after cleaning MacTeX from my Mac and fully reinstalling and updating (I even updated ConTeXt to the latest version as described in wiki and regenerated everything) and again have problems. The good sign is that ConTeXt works without problems, but behavior is different. All my line numberings are gone.
Looks like \startlinenumbering only numbers that lines that are longer and does not fit to the page. If the line is shorter it's not numbered. Mostly all lines at the end of paragraph are not numbered and source code examples too.
Is that default behavior in latest version?
I am still new in TeX world, but ConTeXt looks quite good compared to LaTeX, but I keep bumping into problems.
That ConTeXt minimals give full support of ConTeXt?
BTW, any good syntax highlighters for ConTeXt (C#, F#, etc.)? Looks at http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/cont-enp.pdf 100th page I see, that you have minimal support for some languages. 
david

> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:38:55 +0200
> From: mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com
> To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Problems with Mark IV (MacTeX 2009)
> 
> 2010/6/25 David Abdurachmanov wrote:
> > Hi,
> > After finding out that line numbering works different in Mark IV I tried
> > using this version on Mac OS X via MacTeX 2009.
> 
> Don't. MacTeX 2009 doesn't work with Mark IV, and even if it would,
> it's waaaaay too old.
> 
> If you want to install and use MacTeX, download it from one of the
> servers mentioned in
>     http://tug.org/texlive/pretest.html
> 
> For example this one:
>     http://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/tlpretest/
> 
> But it's probably better to also try to install ConTeXt minimals (you
> can easily switch between both - you just need to set PATH in
> .bash_profile or on the fly).
> 
> I didn't install MacTeX this time, but rather a normal TeX Live with
> ConTeXt scheme (2GB was a lot).
> 
> Mojca
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Re: Problems with Mark IV (MacTeX 2009)

[Hans Hagen]

On 25-6-2010 12:09, David Abdurachmanov wrote:
>
> I had earlier problems with line numbering, after cleaning MacTeX from my Mac and fully reinstalling and updating (I even updated ConTeXt to the latest version as described in wiki and regenerated everything) and again have problems. The good sign is that ConTeXt works without problems, but behavior is different. All my line numberings are gone.
> Looks like \startlinenumbering only numbers that lines that are longer and does not fit to the page. If the line is shorter it's not numbered. Mostly all lines at the end of paragraph are not numbered and source code examples too.
> Is that default behavior in latest version?
> I am still new in TeX world, but ConTeXt looks quite good compared to LaTeX, but I keep bumping into problems.
> That ConTeXt minimals give full support of ConTeXt?

example code needed

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Re: Problems with Mark IV (MacTeX 2009)

[David Abdurachmanov]

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No more needed. I removed MacTeX 2009 completely again and installed ConTeXt minimal distribution. Installation was flawless and it worked fine again. Maybe updating ConTeXt under MacTeX 2009 using this guide http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Running_Mark_IV (Update ConTeXt section) did something wrong?
> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:55:21 +0200
> From: pragma@wxs.nl
> To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
> CC: cybaslt@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Problems with Mark IV (MacTeX 2009)
> 
> On 25-6-2010 12:09, David Abdurachmanov wrote:
> >
> > I had earlier problems with line numbering, after cleaning MacTeX from my Mac and fully reinstalling and updating (I even updated ConTeXt to the latest version as described in wiki and regenerated everything) and again have problems. The good sign is that ConTeXt works without problems, but behavior is different. All my line numberings are gone.
> > Looks like \startlinenumbering only numbers that lines that are longer and does not fit to the page. If the line is shorter it's not numbered. Mostly all lines at the end of paragraph are not numbered and source code examples too.
> > Is that default behavior in latest version?
> > I am still new in TeX world, but ConTeXt looks quite good compared to LaTeX, but I keep bumping into problems.
> > That ConTeXt minimals give full support of ConTeXt?
> 
> example code needed
> 
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