From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/115754 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: juh via ntg-context Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: ConTeXt Workshop at FrOSCon Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2022 14:57:28 +0200 Message-ID: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4242225942360102204==" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14536"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: juh To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Aug 21 14:58:18 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from zapf.boekplan.nl ([5.39.185.232] helo=zapf.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oPkWw-0003cz-1O for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 14:58:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6582B2A3FA2; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 14:57:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.boekplan.nl Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t2gZgDnTlkN6; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 14:57:42 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48BA52A4017; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 14:57:42 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6602A3FA2 for ; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 14:57:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.boekplan.nl Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2lknqA7opN6J for ; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 14:57:37 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=80.241.56.172; helo=mout-p-202.mailbox.org; envelope-from=juh+ntg-context@mailbox.org; receiver= Original-Received: from mout-p-202.mailbox.org (mout-p-202.mailbox.org [80.241.56.172]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B33F2A3F97 for ; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 14:57:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp102.mailbox.org (smtp102.mailbox.org [10.196.197.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-384) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mout-p-202.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4M9bB55jyFz9sT4 for ; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 14:57:33 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mailbox.org; s=mail20150812; t=1661086653; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type; bh=EGi9I71XCfpPHXL4oTeg9WLS7mooe08AeWIRi0VZqgU=; b=qQZ0NhPVoST8X/m3m7Un2Q4P3jLlR4iWgnZs7iuhLW/4iBecEFSmx7E/s9585TV9IK+YfK hS0jHJ1aVc9KlY92OL4kzS7oK+RFLuE1VKQV80MZ0dYH3J5bKr9GhysAxwRgl15h40MSwC HbsZ1ZpTC/H20VUhWb82vQZgwkFgoS8Sycj9lOO9punUDEpYrWVTSidLUdELQjJN8mQM8p CwojDlM8H3ZWKmiX8lIAvDvjmtPs7jFHh6Vb0S1GQ5ME0+aWx7IvGVKnvldgdmxFEz5PC7 LQhNQj9HTn2HaNt6HLXOuBa5TK/LmdMYX/yii3PMHBkUh7UAsDINTFYOtq/bgg== Mail-Followup-To: juh , mailing list for ConTeXt users X-MBO-RS-ID: d3ee1c148ac4e26d8c3 X-MBO-RS-META: nx5sxyr85tjrun4awysj19zg9s5ypdya X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: "ntg-context" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.comp.tex.context:115754 Archived-At: --===============4242225942360102204== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FikiKPHkv6eQFTHC" Content-Disposition: inline --FikiKPHkv6eQFTHC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, my workshop is over and it was quite nice. There were five people that attended the whole workshop and two that looked into it and left after some minutes. I had their attention from the beginning, after I showed them the flyers I made for my cooperative. https://www.hasecke.eu/post/werbemittel-mit-context-gestalten/ I guess that this is what people expect from ConTeXt: individually styled products.=20 The workshop was two hours long so that I could only show the very first steps. One interesting thing is that one person never worked with TeX or LaTeX before. The others had experience with LaTeX of course. Is this an indication that ConTeXt can attract people that never worked with TeX before? There is one thing that is quite error prone for beginners, a small detail during the installation process.=20 Everyone worked on Linux and was able to use the command line but nonetheless two of five had problems to correctly set the PATH variable. So I have one question. Is it possible or reasonable to extend the install script so that it adds the new path directly to .bashrc? Or at least to ask the user if the script should do this?=20 Now we have to do theses steps: sh .install.sh copy the line with the path vim .bashrc insert the line, save and exit vim source .bashrc I can think of arguments against the idea of an installation script that set the variable automatically. One thing is that not everyone uses bash, many use zsh. As I use both shells I set many environment variables in a custom file called .exportrc. So for me personally the extension of the script would be of no advantage. But maybe it can=20 ease the way of beginners. Thanks a lot to Hraban and to Joaqu=EDn. The "introduction" and Hrabans manuscript helped me to outline the things I wanted to show. juh --=20 Autoren-Homepage: ......... http://literatur.hasecke.com Satiren & Essays: ......... http://www.sudelbuch.de Privater Blog: ............ http://www.hasecke.eu Netzliteratur-Projekt: .... http://www.generationenprojekt.de --FikiKPHkv6eQFTHC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEE9pEda910q7j+RYbgOz1ziuYU0i0FAmMCK7MACgkQOz1ziuYU 0i2jTQ//fm6rWljNx3HNDW06sUMsfoPWcFGXxYJ6TexcmcAjebYP6m0a65xZaIp6 WjG2qCHopCAhhhp9+TdGG4gu0PzxsgtoRkucPPjaQuSbaIrkkD6v8mddqu46kDMn 29eMfDbVShu2aLwPZIszQEdE4TC2kjSR+xE/d53JKyC9TXGB3g0TSUMzq74HRSRC 6bPXRzw9lUkPekl0iYlICqIKlAiIjxb0MFoQ69N6tAIxoxqoha/2aeEN3XqqVIB2 ZzoeJP+twArmwUdmxkE/AzrhNyukeu+EpWEAiFjkTeDZ1yHpEXyQNU8B5XIY7l+G RUPYCObSJR9L5Fn5qo5HXv1osZC+ebJ97PjmQksD6Plgs/2IOikO9UMpK0p7uX0L d2SrrVv3eU/ZlrUDVME7d3yjKioss49ksGvF5Dt3Tqz90KTnwerE+zfhoKvk+Skj AR47EtrNFBdq3ROdS+PPl/cFEzdajilu/uzm2HQvAYpSf6xoiRXk9rGMLZbwWkdO qJaI0huHPt/sxC0J0rW8G/l3HQ8TR80A6eNMHOrIPiPRMUrGzdjMLbyu5LeEnx8w ZdkpkQhgh3r/EDnijn3LxrXp+E73GaXgooTMMgKRPfxQ0FLwnyLhDea3FsHPiGt0 DPdY9xSzTNlfyVRIMPe9Rf0nA+fCr90RGiRiWLPtmedVrA4gnd8= =Y5p5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FikiKPHkv6eQFTHC-- --===============4242225942360102204== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KSWYgeW91ciBxdWVzdGlvbiBpcyBvZiBpbnRlcmVz dCB0byBvdGhlcnMgYXMgd2VsbCwgcGxlYXNlIGFkZCBhbiBlbnRyeSB0byB0aGUgV2lraSEKCm1h aWxsaXN0IDogbnRnLWNvbnRleHRAbnRnLm5sIC8gaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnRnLm5sL21haWxtYW4v bGlzdGluZm8vbnRnLWNvbnRleHQKd2VicGFnZSAgOiBodHRwczovL3d3dy5wcmFnbWEtYWRlLm5s IC8gaHR0cDovL2NvbnRleHQuYWFuaGV0Lm5ldAphcmNoaXZlICA6IGh0dHBzOi8vYml0YnVja2V0 Lm9yZy9waGcvY29udGV4dC1taXJyb3IvY29tbWl0cy8Kd2lraSAgICAgOiBodHRwczovL2NvbnRl eHRnYXJkZW4ubmV0Cl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCg== --===============4242225942360102204==--