Von: Wolfgang Schuster Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. September 2023 23:16 An: Maier, Denis Christian (UB) Cc: ntg-context@ntg.nl Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Using structureuservariables before the heading denis.maier@unibe.ch schrieb am 12.09.2023 um 21:38: Von: Wolfgang Schuster Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. September 2023 21:30 An: Maier, Denis Christian (UB) Cc: ntg-context@ntg.nl Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Using structureuservariables before the heading denis.maier@unibe.ch schrieb am 12.09.2023 um 21:24: Von: Wolfgang Schuster Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. September 2023 20:41 An: mailing list for ConTeXt users ; Maier, Denis Christian (UB) Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Using structureuservariables before the heading denis.maier@unibe.ch schrieb am 12.09.2023 um 17:47: Hi, is it possible to access a structureuservariable before the heading's title ? Using the key does not seem to work. There are ways but not in a general way because you try to access the values before they are known to ConTeXt. To provide a proper solution you have to tell what you're trying to achieve. I'm just trying to output the author's name above a chapter heading. Do you need more information? You can create a custom header for the chapter page and show the value of the author key which works without problems because the header is added after to the finished page after the value is available. Another option when the name should appear in the same space as the chapter title is a custom layout for the title. Yes, I've tried that in the original MWE: ... Here, I'm getting just before <3 Third>. So I guess this goes in the right direction, but \define doesn't allow for blanks etc. \starttexdefinition and \def on the other hand gave me erros. You need a box to get the author on a separate line. % \define[2]\ChapterCommand % {\vbox % {\structureuservariable{author} % \blank % #1\space#2}} \starttexdefinition protected ChapterCommand #1#2 \vbox\bgroup \structureuservariable{author} \blank #1\space#2 \egroup \stoptexdefinition Thank you so much, Wolfgang! Why do you need protected here? I've realized that \protected\def also helps a bit, but, of course, paragraph breaks are ignored there as well... If just found the following in the lowlevel-macros manual: So, \long is gone, but why is that? Is there a new mechanism that serves the same purpose? Other than using a vbox, I mean... Best, Denis