[NTG-context] Re: Looking for itemize help

[Jim <zlists+context@jdvb.ca>]

Two replies in one...

On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 15:47 (+0100), Aditya Mahajan wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Jan 2024, Jim wrote:

>> Thoughts?


> \startitemize[nowhite, after]
>   . . .
> \stopitemize

> See: https://adityam.github.io/context-blog/post/spacing-in-itemize/

Aditya,

thanks for the suggestion, and thanks for the link.

"after" does the trick, but not in an automatic way.  I would like
something which automagically "does the right thing".

Perhaps it just doesn't exist in ConTeXt.  The plain TeX macros I wrote for
itemization do what I want, so I know it isn't (at least in plain TeX) a
difficult thing.



On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 16:08 (+0100), Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

> Am 15.01.24 um 15:36 schrieb Jim:
>>> \startitemize[packed,joinedup] should be the right combination.

>> I won't argue about "should", but I will point out it isn't, at least on my
>> computer with a recently updated context.

>> Here is a non-minimal but short non-working example.

> Sorry, then you need "nowhite". Usually that’s synonymous to
> "packed,joineup", but apparently not if whitespace is active.

"Usually" is in the eye of the beholder.  ;-)

I would have thought that having non-zero whitespace between paragraphs is
common.  For example, Aditya's blog linked to above has whitespace between
paragraphs.  Are you suggesting that is uncommon, or (showing my
Context-noobness) is \setupwhitespace not the usual ConTeXt way to do this?

> I added a few comments to
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupitemgroup
> Unfortunately, this is one of the areas where we have a plethora of options
> and no documentation about them.

Thanks for adding them.  I see you did not document the all-important (to
me) "after" (or "before") in the wiki.  Would you like to add that?  If
you don't have time right now, I'd be happy to do so.

Cheers.

                                Jim
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