Re: Again: How to make empty pages by default empty?

[Steffen Wolfrum <wlfrm@estfiles.de>]

The following message was sent by "Willi Egger" <w.egger@boede.nl> on 
Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:16:01 +0200.

&gt; Hi Steffen,
>
>  From: "Steffen Wolfrum" <wlfrm@estfiles.de>
>  Subject: [NTG-context] Again: How to make empty pages by default empty?
>
>
>  > >  > So I don't have to post so many (unanswered) questions any more...
>  > >
>  > >  Posting ConTeXt questions is fun, so don't stop doing this.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  Patrick
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Alright! So maybe I am also allowed to send again
>  > one of my favorite problems from last week?
>  >
>  > Still unanswered. Still unsolved. Very interesting!
>  >
>  > To whom it may concern - don't hesitate to post an answer...
>  >
>  > Thank you all,
>  > Steffen
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>  >
>  > >  At 10:05 19/09/2003 +0200, you wrote:
>  > >  >Hi Steffen,
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  > > \definepagebreak
>  > >  > >     [chapter]
>  > >  > >     [yes,header,right]
>  > >
>  > >  \definepagebreak
>  > >     [chapter]
>  > >     [empty,header,right]
>  >
>  >
>  > Sorry, but that doesn't work.
>  >
>  > When changed the minimal example to...
>  >
>  > \definepagebreak
>  >     [chapter]
>  >     [empty,header,right]
>  >
>  > \setuphead
>  >     [chapter]
>  >     [page=chapter,]
>  >
>  > \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
>  >
>  > \starttext
>  > \startfrontmatter
>  >     \completecontent
>  > \stopfrontmatter
>  > \startbodymatter
>  > \chapter {test} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte }
>  > \chapter {test} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte }
>  > \chapter {test} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte }
>  > \stopbodymatter
>  >
>  > \stoptext
>  >
>  >
>  > ... we have page numbers on (empty) page number 4, 18 and 19!
>  >
>  > Plus there are two strange empty empty pages before the TOC?!
>
>  If you want to get a doublesided tzpeset document you should add also
>  \setuplayout[location=doublesided].
>
>  I am not shure, whether the following is correct!
>
>  Empty pages at the beginning:
>
>  You start the frontmatters with the \completecontent. - I could imagine
>  that
>  this is a consequence of the fact that the TOC starts always on a righthand
>  page. - Thus at the  moment of \startbodymatter tex is already on the first
>  page. But after identifying the \completecontents command will create two
>  page breaks in order to be able to typeset the TOC on a righthand page.
>
>  Pagenumbers on empty pages before starting a new chapter
>
>  Chapters begin on a right hand page. If the lefthand page is empty, there
>  is
>  correctly still the pagenumber. I do not know whether it is possible to
>  check whether the page before a new chapter is completely empty.



Hi Willi, I hope that it can't be to difficult:

Cause the page before a new chapter is actually completely empty JUST 
BECAUSE it is generated by (Con)TeX(t) - for chapters should begin on 
a right page.

So I only ask for empty pages (without pagenumbers) that are 
generated by (Con)TeX(t).

That's not possible in ConTeXt?

Steffen