From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/13431 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steffen Wolfrum Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Again: How to make empty pages by default empty? Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:43:34 +0200 Sender: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Message-ID: Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1064264761 7158 80.91.224.253 (22 Sep 2003 21:06:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Mon Sep 22 23:06:00 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from ref.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.13] helo=ref.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A1Xse-0003gM-00 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:06:00 +0200 Original-Received: from ref.ntg.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A028E10B99; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 23:05:57 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [62.67.200.156]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A2B10B25 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:58:46 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: (qmail 939 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2003 20:58:43 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO [217.184.0.207]) (291610@[217.184.8.55]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Sep 2003 20:58:43 -0000 X-Sender: 291610@pop3.estfiles.de Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:13431 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:13431 The following message was sent by "Willi Egger" on Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:16:01 +0200. > Hi Steffen, > > From: "Steffen Wolfrum" > Subject: [NTG-context] Again: How to make empty pages by default empty? > > > > > > So I don't have to post so many (unanswered) questions any more... > > > > > > Posting ConTeXt questions is fun, so don't stop doing this. > > > > > > > > > Patrick > > > > > > > > Alright! So maybe I am also allowed to send again > > one of my favorite problems from last week? > > > > Still unanswered. Still unsolved. Very interesting! > > > > To whom it may concern - don't hesitate to post an answer... > > > > Thank you all, > > Steffen > > > > > > > > Hans Hagen wrote: > > > > > At 10:05 19/09/2003 +0200, you wrote: > > > >Hi Steffen, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > \definepagebreak > > > > > [chapter] > > > > > [yes,header,right] > > > > > > \definepagebreak > > > [chapter] > > > [empty,header,right] > > > > > > Sorry, but that doesn't work. > > > > When changed the minimal example to... > > > > \definepagebreak > > [chapter] > > [empty,header,right] > > > > \setuphead > > [chapter] > > [page=chapter,] > > > > \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] > > > > \starttext > > \startfrontmatter > > \completecontent > > \stopfrontmatter > > \startbodymatter > > \chapter {test} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte } > > \chapter {test} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte } > > \chapter {test} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte } > > \stopbodymatter > > > > \stoptext > > > > > > ... we have page numbers on (empty) page number 4, 18 and 19! > > > > Plus there are two strange empty empty pages before the TOC?! > > If you want to get a doublesided tzpeset document you should add also > \setuplayout[location=doublesided]. > > I am not shure, whether the following is correct! > > Empty pages at the beginning: > > You start the frontmatters with the \completecontent. - I could imagine > that > this is a consequence of the fact that the TOC starts always on a righthand > page. - Thus at the moment of \startbodymatter tex is already on the first > page. But after identifying the \completecontents command will create two > page breaks in order to be able to typeset the TOC on a righthand page. > > Pagenumbers on empty pages before starting a new chapter > > Chapters begin on a right hand page. If the lefthand page is empty, there > is > correctly still the pagenumber. I do not know whether it is possible to > check whether the page before a new chapter is completely empty. Hi Willi, I hope that it can't be to difficult: Cause the page before a new chapter is actually completely empty JUST BECAUSE it is generated by (Con)TeX(t) - for chapters should begin on a right page. So I only ask for empty pages (without pagenumbers) that are generated by (Con)TeX(t). That's not possible in ConTeXt? Steffen