* Support bei Einstieg in ConText @ 2003-09-26 8:47 ml-context 2003-09-26 18:45 ` Willi Egger 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: ml-context @ 2003-09-26 8:47 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 611 bytes --] Nach langem Winword-Leiden habe ich mich nun entschlossen für längere Texte auf ConTeXt umzusteigen. Aus Zeitgründen überlege ich, mir für den Umstieg Unterstützung zu leisten. Bevor ich bei uns an der FH Studenten dafür anspreche, versuche ich es hier über das Forum. Wer ist interessiert, gegen finanzielle Unterstützung bei folgenden Aufgaben zu leisten? - Unterstützung bei der Einrichtung einer TeX/ConTeXt-Umgebung - Beraten beim Layout für ein längeres Dokument - Bestehende Winword-Texte Schulungsunterlagen konvertieren und formatieren - Evtl. beraten bei Auswahl einer Digitaldruckerei Gruß Jörg ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Support bei Einstieg in ConText 2003-09-26 8:47 Support bei Einstieg in ConText ml-context @ 2003-09-26 18:45 ` Willi Egger 2003-09-26 21:04 ` Steffen Wolfrum 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Willi Egger @ 2003-09-26 18:45 UTC (permalink / raw) Hallo Jörg Gerne würde ich mehr über dieses Vorhaben wissen. Unterstützung bieten, Mmithilfe bei der Konvertierung ist kein Problem. Was ich wahrscheinlich nicht kann, ist Ihnen helfen an eine Digitale Druckerei. Doch nehme ich an, dass sich schon Leute auf dierser Liste befinden, die uns dabei unterstützen können. Selber bin ich Freiberufler. Ich arbeite ausschliesslich mit Context. Meine Erfahrung habe ich in den letzten vier Jahren aufgebaut, bin beteiligt and der Herausgabe von Büchern. Bitte rufen Sie mich doch an. +31 485 5733896 Willi Egger Maassstraat 2 5836 BB Sambeek Niederlande www.boede.nl Freundlicher Grüsse Willi Egger ----- Original Message ----- From: <ml-context@dr-kopp.com> To: <ntg-context@ntg.nl> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 10:47 AM Subject: [NTG-context] Support bei Einstieg in ConText > Nach langem Winword-Leiden habe ich mich nun entschlossen > für längere Texte auf ConTeXt umzusteigen. > Aus Zeitgründen überlege ich, mir für den Umstieg Unterstützung zu leisten. > Bevor ich bei uns an der FH Studenten dafür anspreche, versuche ich es hier über das Forum. > > Wer ist interessiert, gegen finanzielle Unterstützung bei folgenden Aufgaben zu leisten? > > - Unterstützung bei der Einrichtung einer TeX/ConTeXt-Umgebung > - Beraten beim Layout für ein längeres Dokument > - Bestehende Winword-Texte Schulungsunterlagen konvertieren und formatieren > - Evtl. beraten bei Auswahl einer Digitaldruckerei > > Gruß > Jörg > > > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context@ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Support bei Einstieg in ConText 2003-09-26 18:45 ` Willi Egger @ 2003-09-26 21:04 ` Steffen Wolfrum 2003-09-27 5:32 ` Patrick Gundlach 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2003-09-26 21:04 UTC (permalink / raw) >Hallo Jörg > >Gerne würde ich mehr über dieses Vorhaben wissen. >Unterstützung bieten, Mmithilfe bei der Konvertierung ist kein Problem. >Was ich wahrscheinlich nicht kann, ist Ihnen helfen an eine Digitale >Druckerei. Doch nehme ich an, dass sich schon Leute auf dierser Liste >befinden, die uns dabei unterstützen können. > >Selber bin ich Freiberufler. Ich arbeite ausschliesslich mit Context. Meine >Erfahrung habe ich in den letzten vier Jahren aufgebaut, bin beteiligt and >der Herausgabe von Büchern. Gibt es etwa Bücher zum Thema ConTeXt? (Did you ment editing books *on* ConTeXt?) Steffen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Support bei Einstieg in ConText 2003-09-26 21:04 ` Steffen Wolfrum @ 2003-09-27 5:32 ` Patrick Gundlach 2003-09-27 9:43 ` Willi Egger ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2003-09-27 5:32 UTC (permalink / raw) Steffen Wolfrum <wlfrm@estfiles.de> writes: Hi, > Gibt es etwa Bücher zum Thema ConTeXt? come on, guys. Posting in a wrong language can happen. So what. Answering (an obviously private mail posted in the ML) here in the same language on this mailinglist is not the best thing, but this can happen, too. But we should not keep up this german thread. It is not polite for the other non-german speaking people out there, that get completely bored. So I'd suggest: \if\language\en\postonthismailinglist=1 \else \dontexpand & \keepitprivate \bye \fi Patrick -- You are your own rainbow! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: Support bei Einstieg in ConText 2003-09-27 5:32 ` Patrick Gundlach @ 2003-09-27 9:43 ` Willi Egger 2003-09-27 10:01 ` Hans Hagen ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Willi Egger @ 2003-09-27 9:43 UTC (permalink / raw) Sorry to have initiated this. This is of course not the meaning to keep this thread open nor to write in German! It is my fault that I wrote the message by means of reply instead of directing the mail to the addres of the sender. Willi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Gundlach" <pg@levana.de> To: <ntg-context@ntg.nl> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 7:32 AM Subject: [NTG-context] Re: Support bei Einstieg in ConText > Steffen Wolfrum <wlfrm@estfiles.de> writes: > > Hi, > > > Gibt es etwa Bücher zum Thema ConTeXt? > > come on, guys. Posting in a wrong language can happen. So what. > Answering (an obviously private mail posted in the ML) here in the > same language on this mailinglist is not the best thing, but this can happen, > too. But we should not keep up this german thread. It is not polite > for the other non-german speaking people out there, that get > completely bored. So I'd suggest: > > \if\language\en\postonthismailinglist=1 > \else > \dontexpand & \keepitprivate > \bye > \fi > > Patrick > -- > You are your own rainbow! > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context@ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: Support bei Einstieg in ConText 2003-09-27 5:32 ` Patrick Gundlach 2003-09-27 9:43 ` Willi Egger @ 2003-09-27 10:01 ` Hans Hagen 2003-09-27 11:28 ` Patrick Gundlach 2003-09-27 10:47 ` Support ... (was: Support bei Einstieg in ConText) Steffen Wolfrum 2003-09-27 12:56 ` Re: Support bei Einstieg in ConText Matthew Huggett 3 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2003-09-27 10:01 UTC (permalink / raw) At 07:32 27/09/2003 +0200, you wrote: > \dontexpand & \keepitprivate \& for the rest: I agree -) % \ifx\language\problem \WeCanMakeAnExtraList \fi Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Support bei Einstieg in ConText 2003-09-27 10:01 ` Hans Hagen @ 2003-09-27 11:28 ` Patrick Gundlach 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2003-09-27 11:28 UTC (permalink / raw) Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> writes: Hi, > % \ifx\language\problem \WeCanMakeAnExtraList \fi Then we might get the following error Underfull \inbox (23.14839msgs too few) ... Patrick -- You are your own rainbow! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Support ... (was: Support bei Einstieg in ConText) @ 2003-09-27 10:47 ` Steffen Wolfrum 2003-09-27 12:12 ` Support Patrick Gundlach 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2003-09-27 10:47 UTC (permalink / raw) >The following message was sent by Patrick Gundlach <pg@levana.de> on Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:32:02 +0200. > >> Steffen Wolfrum <wlfrm@estfiles.de> writes: >> >> Hi, >> >> > Gibt es etwa B¸cher zum Thema ConTeXt? >> >> come on, guys. Posting in a wrong language can happen. So what. >> Answering (an obviously private mail posted in the ML) here in the >> same language on this mailinglist is not the best thing, but this can happen, >> too. But we should not keep up this german thread. It is not polite >> for the other non-german speaking people out there, that get >> completely bored. So I'd suggest: >> >> \if\language\en\postonthismailinglist=1 >> \else >> \dontexpand & \keepitprivate >> \bye >> \fi >> >> Patrick >> -- >> You are your own rainbow! Hi Patrick, Somehow I really felt like walking on thin ice when I wrote the email you mention. Well, I knew it will be difficult to serve the different aims of communication: - politeness and - political correctness I asked some friends, and we discussed on this topic, trying to find a suitable way, to get the message transferred, and not to hurt anybodies feelings - as the later is very quickly done, and it's a pity, cause often quite unnecessary. So finally, after carefully looking at the pro and cons, I decided to write a bi-lingual answer, exactly one sentence each: > Gibt es etwa Bücher zum Thema ConTeXt? > (Did you ment editing books *on* ConTeXt?) Sure, I have to admit that I used brackets for the second sentence. Btw.: Why didn't you quote that second sentence? So it might have given you the feeling that I made a *main* answer and a less important. But my intention was only to stay in the logical structure of the mail I was answering to: - Jörg once started a threat in German - ok, as you told him this was an initial mistake. - Willi (a typical multilingual Dutch) also answered in German So I wrote my contribution also in the main language of this thread, AND, to stay in the rules of the mailing list, I translated it, as best as I could, into a kind of international English. Obviously my mistake were the brackets. I knew I am walking on thin ice ... and so I forgot to look on my orthography carefully. Thank you Patrick for pointing me to that. Steffen P.S. Who got bored? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Support ... 2003-09-27 10:47 ` Support ... (was: Support bei Einstieg in ConText) Steffen Wolfrum @ 2003-09-27 12:12 ` Patrick Gundlach 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2003-09-27 12:12 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi, Steffen Wolfrum <wlfrm@estfiles.de> writes: > I asked some friends, and we discussed on this topic, trying to find > a suitable way, to get the message transferred, did they suggest to write english on an english mailinglist? > Btw.: Why didn't you quote that second sentence? I was in a "don't quote the other sentence" mood. > So I wrote my contribution also in the main language of this thread, which is clearly off topic. Let us not be too verbose on this unimportant stuff. Lets go forth now and create masterpieces of digital typography. There are better discussions to spend time. Patrick -- You are your own rainbow! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: Support bei Einstieg in ConText 2003-09-27 5:32 ` Patrick Gundlach ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2003-09-27 10:47 ` Support ... (was: Support bei Einstieg in ConText) Steffen Wolfrum @ 2003-09-27 12:56 ` Matthew Huggett 3 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Matthew Huggett @ 2003-09-27 12:56 UTC (permalink / raw) Patrick Gundlach wrote: >Steffen Wolfrum <wlfrm@estfiles.de> writes: > >Hi, > > > >>Gibt es etwa Bücher zum Thema ConTeXt? >> >> > >come on, guys. Posting in a wrong language can happen. So what. >Answering (an obviously private mail posted in the ML) here in the >same language on this mailinglist is not the best thing, but this can happen, >too. But we should not keep up this german thread. It is not polite >for the other non-german speaking people out there, that get >completely bored. > I never understand half of what gets written on this list anyway ;-) It's all German to me. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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* Re: Support ... (was: Support bei Einstieg in ConText) [not found] <200309270929.h8R9TcK23548@twilight.domainfactory.de> @ 2003-09-27 10:29 ` Steffen Wolfrum 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2003-09-27 10:29 UTC (permalink / raw) >The following message was sent by Patrick Gundlach <pg@levana.de> on Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:32:02 +0200. > >> Steffen Wolfrum <wlfrm@estfiles.de> writes: >> >> Hi, >> >> > Gibt es etwa B¸cher zum Thema ConTeXt? >> >> come on, guys. Posting in a wrong language can happen. So what. >> Answering (an obviously private mail posted in the ML) here in the >> same language on this mailinglist is not the best thing, but this can happen, >> too. But we should not keep up this german thread. It is not polite >> for the other non-german speaking people out there, that get >> completely bored. So I'd suggest: >> >> \if\language\en\postonthismailinglist=1 >> \else >> \dontexpand & \keepitprivate >> \bye >> \fi >> >> Patrick >> -- >> You are your own rainbow! Hi Patrick, Somehow I really felt like walking on thin ice when I wrote the email you mention. Well, I knew it will be difficult to serve the different aims of communication: - politeness and - political correctness I asked some friends, and we discussed on this topic, trying to find a suitable way, to get the message transferred, and not to hurt anybodies feelings - as the later is very quickly done, and it's a pity, cause often quite unnecessary. So finally, after carefully looking at the pro and cons, I decided to write a bi-lingual answer, exactly one sentence each: > Gibt es etwa Bücher zum Thema ConTeXt? > (Did you ment editing books *on* ConTeXt?) Sure, I have to admit that I used brackets for the second sentence. Btw.: Why didn't you quote that second sentence? So it might have given you the feeling that I made a *main* answer and a less important. But my intention was only to stay in the logical structure of the mail I was answering to: - Jörg once started a threat in German - ok, as you told him this was an initial mistake. - Willi (a typical multilingual Dutch) also answered in German So I wrote my contribution also in the main language of this thread, AND, to stay in the rules of the mailing list, I translated it, as best as I could, into a kind of international English. Obviously my mistake were the brackets. I knew I am walking on thin ice ... and so I forgot to look on my orthography carefully. Thank you Patrick for pointing me to that. Steffen P.S. Who got bored? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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