From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/13556 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steffen Wolfrum Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Again: How to make empty pages by default empty? Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:15:36 +0200 Sender: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Message-ID: References: <003c01c381d1$c43e6fc0$0100a8c0@vademecum> Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1064661785 8192 80.91.224.253 (27 Sep 2003 11:23:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Sat Sep 27 13:23:03 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from ref.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.13] helo=ref.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A3DAF-00073A-00 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:23:03 +0200 Original-Received: from ref.ntg.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B586C10B32; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:22:59 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from smtprelay02.ispgateway.de (smtprelay02.ispgateway.de [62.67.200.157]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF4410B2F for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:16:41 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: (qmail 9505 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2003 11:16:38 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO [217.184.8.69]) (291610@[217.184.13.117]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay02.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 27 Sep 2003 11:16:38 -0000 X-Sender: 291610@pop3.estfiles.de In-Reply-To: <003c01c381d1$c43e6fc0$0100a8c0@vademecum> Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:13556 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:13556 Hi Hans, may I also ask you for an idea or a statement on this old problem? It is about numbered empty pages that are generated when using a front-, body-, backmatter project structure. Thank you, Steffen ----- Original Message ----- >> > > Hans Hagen wrote: >> > > >> > > > At 10:05 19/09/2003 +0200, you wrote: >> > > > >Hi Steffen, >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > \definepagebreak >> > > > > > [chapter] >> > > > > > [yes,header,right] >> > > > >> > > > \definepagebreak >> > > > [chapter] >> > > > [empty,header,right] >> > > >> > > >> > > Sorry, but that doesn't work. >> > > >> > > When changed the minimal example to... >> > > >> > > \definepagebreak >> > > [chapter] >> > > [empty,header,right] >> > > >> > > \setuphead >> > > [chapter] >> > > [page=chapter,] >> > > >> > > \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] >> > > >> > > \starttext >> > > \startfrontmatter >> > > \completecontent >> > > \stopfrontmatter >> > > \startbodymatter >> > > \chapter {test} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte } >> > > \chapter {test} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte } >> > > \chapter {test} \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte } >> > > \stopbodymatter >> > > >> > > \stoptext >> > > >> > > >> > > ... we have page numbers on (empty) page number 4, 18 and 19! >> > > >> > > Plus there are two strange empty empty pages before the TOC?! >> > >> > If you want to get a doublesided tzpeset document you should add also >> > \setuplayout[location=doublesided]. >> > >> > I am not shure, whether the following is correct! >> > >> > Empty pages at the beginning: >> > >> > You start the frontmatters with the \completecontent. - I could imagine >> > that >> > this is a consequence of the fact that the TOC starts always on a >righthand >> > page. - Thus at the moment of \startbodymatter tex is already on the >first >> > page. But after identifying the \completecontents command will create >two >> > page breaks in order to be able to typeset the TOC on a righthand page. >> > >> > Pagenumbers on empty pages before starting a new chapter >> > >> > Chapters begin on a right hand page. If the lefthand page is empty, >there >> > is >> > correctly still the pagenumber. I do not know whether it is possible to >> > check whether the page before a new chapter is completely empty. >> >> >> >> Hi Willi, I hope that it can't be to difficult: >> >> Cause the page before a new chapter is actually completely empty JUST >> BECAUSE it is generated by (Con)TeX(t) - for chapters should begin on >> a right page. >> >> So I only ask for empty pages (without pagenumbers) that are >> generated by (Con)TeX(t). >> >> That's not possible in ConTeXt? >> >> Steffen > >Try the following: > >\definepagebreak > [chapter] > [yes,header,right] % yes instead of emtpy taken from the sources >page-ini.tex line 1611 >\setuphead > [chapter] > [page=chapter] > >\setuppagenumbering[alternative={doublesided,marginedge}] >\setuplayout[location=doublesided] > >This worsk for me, if no \startfrontmatter and \startbodymatter and and the >\stop... equivalents are used. >If I use the \startfrontmatter cum suis then there is a numbered page after >the TOC and the last page if even and empty is also numbered. Inside the >\startbodymatter \stopbodymatter the emptypages at new chapters are empty >pages with an empty header, thus no pagenumber. > >Instead o placeing \completecontents you might want to use \placecontent >which prevents the empty pages discussed before. > >Willi > >_______________________________________________ >ntg-context mailing list >ntg-context@ntg.nl >http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context