Re: Footnotes in margin? (HELP!)

[Steffen Wolfrum <context@st.estfiles.de>]

Hi Willi,

that's also what I experienced: the code works with very small footnotes.

I am working now on a thesis with kind of normal equipment: 
Some hundred pages, about 900 footnotes with lots of them quite long (seems to be normal nowadays for art-historians).

So what to do?

Steffen






Willi Egger <w.egger@boede.nl> wrote:

> Hi Steffen,
> 
> I tried your code and indeed I am getting also half-empty pages.
> 
> I tried then the following:
> I replaced the dorecurse by
> 
> \input knuth \mynote{knuth} \blank[1cm] \input ward \mynote{ward} 
> \blank[1cm]
> \input knuth \mynote{knuth} \blank[1cm] \input ward \mynote{ward} 
> \blank[1cm]
> \input knuth \mynote{knuth} \blank[1cm] \input ward \mynote{ward} 
> \blank[1cm]
> \input knuth \mynote{knuth} \blank[1cm] \input ward \mynote{ward} \page
> 
> This fills pages and the \mynotes are placed in the margin.
> 
> However I played also with text in one of the \mynotes. As long as the 
> text is short i.e. not longer than one width of the margin everything is 
> o.k. Once the text becomes longer, the page on which the \mynote is 
> placed shortens increasing with the length of the \mynote.
> 
> So there must be a reason which is beyond my knowledge for this behaviour.
> 
> Willi
> 
> Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> 
> > Hans,
> > 
> > I don't know what crazy stuff Idris is using this footnotes for,
> > but for my case it went absolutely horrible: Almost every page gets half empty!!
> > 
> > It looks like the footnotes are just moved to the margin - leaving empty space, without the body text comes flush bottom again. I'm sure my publisher won't be amused about all this empty paper...
> > 
> > It tried to send a minimal example and changed just the text between \starttext and \stoptext.
> > 
> > Maybe there is something that could be changed in order to get the main text in flush bottom shape again AND keep the corresponding footnotes in the margin?
> > 
> > 
> > Steffen
> > (Sorry Hans, but I tried for three hours now to understand and change the source without any chance...)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > \showframe
> > 
> > \definenote[mynote][way=bypage,location=text,width=\marginwidth,rule=,before=]
> > 
> > \setuplayout[backspace=5cm,margin=3cm,margindistance=.5cm,width=middle]
> > 
> > \setuptexttexts
> >   [margin]
> >   [\vbox to \textheight{\placenotes[mynote]\vfill}]
> >   []
> > 
> > \starttext
> > 
> > \dorecurse{3}{\input knuth \par \input tufte \mynote{\input knuth \par}\par}
> > 
> > \stoptext
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>does ConTeXt provide a way to place footnote (not margin notes!) per page - but not below the body text?
> >>>A suitable place could be the margin. But there is no "\setupfootnotes[location=inmargin]"
> >>>and somthing like "\inmargin{\footnote{}The footnote's text.}" doesn't flow.
> >>>
> >>>Does anybody know a working solution?
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>
> >>Idris should know since i made him definable footnotes -) 
> >>
> >>\showframe
> >>
> >>\definenote[mynote][way=bypage,location=text,width=\marginwidth,rule=,before=]
> >>
> >>\setuplayout[backspace=5cm,margin=3cm,margindistance=.5cm,width=middle]
> >>
> >>\setuptexttexts
> >>  [margin]
> >>  [\vbox to \textheight{\placenotes[mynote]\vfill}]
> >>  []
> >>
> >>\starttext
> >>
> >>test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page
> >>test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page
> >>test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page
> >>test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page
> >>
> >>\stoptext
> >>
> >>or a bit more modern (structured, readable, replacable): 
> >>
> >>\setuptexttexts
> >>  [margin]
> >>  [\setups{flushmynotes}]
> >>  []
> >>
> >>\startsetups flushmynotes
> >>
> >>  \vbox to \textheight{\placenotes[mynote]\vfill}
> >>
> >>\stopsetups
> >>
> >>So, it's up to you to feed this in the wiki -) 
> >>
> >>Hans