From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/48689 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lutz Haseloff Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: math problems in last beta (cont-en and cont-xp) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:38:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: <49C7FD86.4090609@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1366532596==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1237887546 25420 80.91.229.12 (24 Mar 2009 09:39:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:39:06 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Mar 24 10:40:23 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Lm37N-0000lT-J4 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:40:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF9A1FB29; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:38:56 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08798-04; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:38:15 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75911FA60; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:38:15 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3302E1FA60 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:38:14 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19160-05-2 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:38:06 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter2-til.mf.surf.net (filter2-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.218]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A99D1FA41 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:38:06 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-bw0-f178.google.com (mail-bw0-f178.google.com [209.85.218.178]) by filter2-til.mf.surf.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n2O9c39g025391 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:38:03 +0100 Original-Received: by bwz26 with SMTP id 26so2272396bwz.2 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:38:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KLEQcg1bOXiQX/CrAqs4366U8P+8YU3cmzt+4IuNiZE=; b=bH8ZrH2Sn8GguDKhfv15FpSlgx1L6e9Vb03GUAsS++rInGvaUatgn/7a78UxU/1R7b SV+vgX2y61YeASlVtEYJ9xAHMNE6lS8AB+iBYI/Cd4SUo39b0HdZwpZjbn7fAsNvJBf7 pyckPAJ1cB01uk0BifERePYWJZ+CerbtdV0LQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VX1nsKvC+yhcc9bfJRn2rzJ1LblYhXCoNJXvZAqjPT4PGOA/YIPaaKwI/gP1PN54pF bNYizJkjZ/MjyDJpaXduPGZFBHzTSotVYvy+t43s7hWMWzUns6Wb1g+NypOWt8ka+Kbs gSKyvDmzpFVonZF0yiBvX9SbTpqPXAkQF25LE= Original-Received: by 10.204.63.8 with SMTP id z8mr2861764bkh.55.1237887482881; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:38:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49C7FD86.4090609@wxs.nl> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.218.178; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 198056491 - 3c82c8eb228a - 20090324 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.218 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:48689 Archived-At: --===============1366532596== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b7e4b0665f0465da23f1 --001636c5b7e4b0665f0465da23f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, 2009/3/23 Hans Hagen > Lutz Haseloff wrote: > > Lucida lacks greek and some operators. I found no embedded LucidaNewMath >> fonts >> in the resulting pdf. >> > > not defined at all (yet) (see end of math-vfu for how to do that; you can > give lucida a try) > I tried that, but it seems not enough to define: mathematics.make_font ( "lucida-math", { { name = "lucidabright", features = "virtualmath", main = true }, { name = "lucidanewmathroman", vector = "traditional-mr" } , { name = "lucidanewmathitalic", vector = "traditional-mi", skewchar=0x7F }, { name = "lucidanewmathsymbol", vector = "traditional-sy", skewchar=0x30, parameters = true } , { name = "lucidanewmathextension", vector = "traditional-ex", extension = true } , { name = "msam10", vector = "traditional-ma" }, { name = "msbm10", vector = "traditional-mb" }, } ) (I don't know in which of the lucida fontfiles the symbols a and b are located.) I would be glad to test math for the good old LucidaBright fonts. I'm not smart enough to prepare this myself. > > > Cambria has a very ugly spacing. >> > > hm, do you have the latest cambria? there might be problems with some otf > math parameters but we need examples before we can act on that > I had an old version of cambria cached in C:\contextminimal\texmf-cache\luatex-cache\context\...\fonts After deleting them spacing is ok. But the \bigotimes operator from my example file now disappeared. > > > btw. in the wiki is described a ConTeXt command \showmathcharacters. >> This seems not to work anymore. The related file math-run.tex is not >> input at the time of format generation. >> > > in mkiv we wil use modules for that ... s-fnt-25 is for math > Should I send the output of: \usetypescript[cambria] \setupbodyfont[cambria] \usemodule[fnt-25] \starttext \showmathfontcharacters \stoptext to somebody? (130 pages, 458 kB) > > > P.S. will the key [texnansi] (or [ec]) remain necessary to switch to >> LucidaBright? >> > > no > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > --001636c5b7e4b0665f0465da23f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all,

2009/3/23 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
=
Lutz Haseloff wrote:

Lucida lacks greek and some operators. I found no embedded LucidaNewMath fonts
in the resulting pdf.

not defined at all (yet) (see end of math-vfu for how to do that; you can g= ive lucida a try)

I tried that= , but it seems not enough to define:

mathematics.make_font ( "l= ucida-math", {
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 { name =3D "lucidabright", features =3D "= virtualmath", main =3D true },
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 { name =3D "= lucidanewmathroman", vector =3D "traditional-mr" } ,
=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 { name =3D "lucidanewmathitalic", vector =3D &quo= t;traditional-mi", skewchar=3D0x7F },
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 { name =3D "lucidanewmathsymbol", vector =3D &= quot;traditional-sy", skewchar=3D0x30, parameters =3D true } ,
=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 { name =3D "lucidanewmathextension", vector =3D &= quot;traditional-ex", extension =3D true } ,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 { name =3D "msam10", vector =3D "traditio= nal-ma" },
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 { name =3D "msbm10", vector= =3D "traditional-mb" },
} )

(I don't know in which= of the lucida fontfiles the symbols a and b are located.)

I would be glad to test math for the good old LucidaBright fonts.
I&= #39;m not smart enough to prepare this myself.
=C2=A0


Cambria has a very ugly spacing.

hm, do you have the latest cambria? there might be problems with some otf m= ath parameters but we need examples before we can act on that

I had an old version of cambria cached in <= br>
C:\contextminimal\texmf-cache\luatex-cache\context\...\fonts

Aft= er deleting them spacing is ok. But the \bigotimes operator from my
exam= ple file now disappeared.

=C2=A0


btw. in the wiki is described a ConTeXt command \showmathcharacters.
This seems not to work anymore. The related file math-run.tex is not
input at the time of format generation.

in mkiv we wil use modules for that ... s-fnt-25 is for math

Should I send the output of:

\usetype= script[cambria]
\setupbodyfont[cambria]
\usemodule[fnt-25]
\startt= ext
\showmathfontcharacters
\stoptext

to somebody? (130 pages, 458 kB= )
=C2=A0


P.S. will the key [texnansi] (or [ec]) remain necessary to switch to
LucidaBright?

no


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