Cannot run Lilypond

Cannot run Lilypond

[Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky]

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Hello,

I gave a try to LiliPond today, but it doesn't work for me.

1) I've installed LilyPond 2.12.2 on Windows

2) Ran a simple example


\usemodule[lilypond]

\starttext

There are some notes \lilypond{ \relative{bes a c b} } embedded in this 
line.

\stoptext


3) And got dummy image


What's wrong?

Details are attached.

Regards, Vyatcheslav




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\starttext

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Re: Cannot run Lilypond

[Lutz Haseloff]

Hi Vyatcheslav,

Just a guess, I had a similar problem. I had to install ghostscript to get the pstopdf script working.

Greetings Lutz
------------------------

-----Original Message-----
From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky <yatskovsky@gmail.com>

Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 17:19:15 
To: <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: [NTG-context] Cannot run Lilypond


Hello,

I gave a try to LiliPond today, but it doesn't work for me.

1) I've installed LilyPond 2.12.2 on Windows

2) Ran a simple example


\usemodule[lilypond]

\starttext

There are some notes \lilypond{ \relative{bes a c b} } embedded in this 
line.

\stoptext


3) And got dummy image


What's wrong?

Details are attached.

Regards, Vyatcheslav





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Re: Cannot run Lilypond

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2009-06-01 um 16:50 schrieb Lutz Haseloff:
> 1) I've installed LilyPond 2.12.2 on Windows
>
> 2) Ran a simple example

Can you run "lilypond" on the command line? I.e. is it in your PATH?
Is GhostScript installed and can you run "pstopdf" on the command line?


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Re: Cannot run Lilypond

[Lutz Haseloff]

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2009/6/2 Henning Hraban Ramm <hraban@fiee.net>

> Am 2009-06-01 um 16:50 schrieb Lutz Haseloff:
>
>> 1) I've installed LilyPond 2.12.2 on Windows
>>
>> 2) Ran a simple example
>>
>
> Can you run "lilypond" on the command line? I.e. is it in your PATH?


Yes.


>
> Is GhostScript installed and can you run "pstopdf" on the command line?
>

Yes.


>
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Re: Cannot run Lilypond

[Piotr Kopszak]

Hello Vyatcheslav and Lutz,

I have just  tested Lutz's test file and it compiles fine with luatex
on linux-ppc.

MTXrun | current version: 2009.05.29 15:44
LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.1-2009051107 (Web2C 7.5.7) luatex.web >= v2376
GNU LilyPond 2.12.2

Piotr

2009/6/2 Lutz Haseloff <lutz.haseloff@googlemail.com>:
>
>
> 2009/6/2 Henning Hraban Ramm <hraban@fiee.net>
>>
>> Am 2009-06-01 um 16:50 schrieb Lutz Haseloff:
>>>
>>> 1) I've installed LilyPond 2.12.2 on Windows
>>>
>>> 2) Ran a simple example
>>
>> Can you run "lilypond" on the command line? I.e. is it in your PATH?
>
> Yes.
>
>>
>> Is GhostScript installed and can you run "pstopdf" on the command line?
>
> Yes.
>
>>
>> Greetlings from Lake Constance!
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Re: Cannot run Lilypond

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

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Am 2009-06-02 um 10:38 schrieb Lutz Haseloff:
> Can you run "lilypond" on the command line? I.e. is it in your PATH?
> Yes.
>
> Is GhostScript installed and can you run "pstopdf" on the command  
> line?
> Yes.

Please try the attachment (put it in your project directory and rename  
it to t-lilypond.tex).
If you don't get "LilyPond ERROR" messages, the binaries are probably  
not found.

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Re: Cannot run Lilypond

[Lutz Haseloff]

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Please excuse me, these questions were for Vyatcheslav.
I answered in the wrong thread, sorry.

Lutz

2009/6/2 Lutz Haseloff <lutz.haseloff@googlemail.com>

>
>
> 2009/6/2 Henning Hraban Ramm <hraban@fiee.net>
>
>> Am 2009-06-01 um 16:50 schrieb Lutz Haseloff:
>>
>>> 1) I've installed LilyPond 2.12.2 on Windows
>>>
>>> 2) Ran a simple example
>>>
>>
>> Can you run "lilypond" on the command line? I.e. is it in your PATH?
>
>
> Yes.
>
>
>>
>> Is GhostScript installed and can you run "pstopdf" on the command line?
>>
>
> Yes.
>
>
>>
>>
>> Greetlings from Lake Constance!
>> Hraban
>> ---
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>>
>>
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>>
>
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Re: Cannot run Lilypond

[Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky]

Thanks for the interest.

I can run Lilypond from command line from any location.

Also, I can run pstopdf, but the fact is that i didn't install 
GhostScript. But I'm not sure if it works, bacause when I run it it says 
nothing and exits.

When I compile my Lily example, lily1-lilypond-1.tmp is created in both 
document dir and lilytemp subfolder. But lilypdfs remains empty.

Best,
Vyatccheslav
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Re: Cannot run Lilypond

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

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Am 2009-06-02 um 17:25 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky:

> I can run Lilypond from command line from any location.
>
> Also, I can run pstopdf, but the fact is that i didn't install  
> GhostScript. But I'm not sure if it works, bacause when I run it it  
> says nothing and exits.

pstopdf is part of the ConTeXt distribution and should give you  
something like:

hraban$ pstopdf
PsToPdf | version 2.0.1 - 2002-2006 - PRAGMA ADE/POD

PsToPdf | --convert    convert ps into pdf
PsToPdf | --request    handles exa request file
PsToPdf | --watch      watch folders for conversions (untested)

> When I compile my Lily example, lily1-lilypond-1.tmp is created in  
> both document dir and lilytemp subfolder. But lilypdfs remains empty.

Don't you get anything else, esp. EPS files? Then LilyPond isn't run.  
I don't know how to check for that OS-independently in my module.

Please try the attached latest version.


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Re: Cannot run Lilypond

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2009-06-03 um 16:54 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:

>> pstopdf is part of the ConTeXt distribution and should give you  
>> something
>> like:
>> PsToPdf | version 2.0.1 - 2002-2006 - PRAGMA ADE/POD
> Yes, but pstopdf relies on existance of ghostscript in path. pstopdf
> is just a wrapper. If you don't have ghostscript installed, this is
> unlikely to work.

I know, but Vyatcheslav said, pstopdf would say "nothing", and that  
would be too less, even if GS isn't installed.

> But ... I had some impression that lilypond is able to generate pdfs  
> on the fly?


It has GS compiled in (or as a library or the like), but unfortunately  
it can't generate PDF snippets, only whole pages.
And it generates always PostScript first (after a normal LP run you've  
a useless .ps file).

EPS snippets (that we use here) were a special feature for the LaTeX  
"lilypond-book" process, that's why there were even more junk files  
created before v.12.2


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Re: Cannot run Lilypond

[Lutz Haseloff]

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2009/6/4 Henning Hraban Ramm <hraban@fiee.net>

> Am 2009-06-03 um 16:54 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
>
>  pstopdf is part of the ConTeXt distribution and should give you something
>>> like:
>>> PsToPdf | version 2.0.1 - 2002-2006 - PRAGMA ADE/POD
>>>
>> Yes, but pstopdf relies on existance of ghostscript in path. pstopdf
>> is just a wrapper. If you don't have ghostscript installed, this is
>> unlikely to work.
>>
>
> I know, but Vyatcheslav said, pstopdf would say "nothing", and that would
> be too less, even if GS isn't installed.
>
>  But ... I had some impression that lilypond is able to generate pdfs on
>> the fly?
>>
>
>
> It has GS compiled in (or as a library or the like), but unfortunately it
> can't generate PDF snippets, only whole pages.


Not true on my Windows machine. After every run of LP there is a
filename-lilypond-1-1.pdf with exactly the same size as the pstopdf
generated.

Lilypond writes:
...
Systeme erstellen...
Layout nach »lilytest-lilypond-1-1.eps« ausgeben...
Konvertierung nach »./lilytest-lilypond-1-1.pdf«...
Layout nach »lilytest-lilypond-1.eps« ausgeben...
Konvertierung nach »./lilytest-lilypond-1.pdf«...
...


>
> And it generates always PostScript first (after a normal LP run you've a
> useless .ps file).


I get two .eps: filename-lilypond-1.eps and filename-lilypond-1-1.eps.



>
> EPS snippets (that we use here) were a special feature for the LaTeX
> "lilypond-book" process, that's why there were even more junk files created
> before v.12.2
>
>
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Re: Cannot run Lilypond

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2009-06-04 um 11:06 schrieb Lutz Haseloff:

>> It has GS compiled in (or as a library or the like), but  
>> unfortunately it can't generate PDF snippets, only whole pages.
>
> Not true on my Windows machine. After every run of LP there is a  
> filename-lilypond-1-1.pdf with exactly the same size as the pstopdf  
> generated.

Ok, you're right - a normal LP run (PDF backend) cannot create  
snippets, but the EPS-backend run does - *plus* it converts eps to pdf  
by itself. I didn't know the latter; I guess it was introduced only  
some versions before.

Try to compile the .tmp file with a normal LilyPond call, and you get  
a page-size PDF. The intermediate .ps file is deleted by LilyPond  
itself, but you can see it sometimes flash. LilyPond does the  
conversion to PDF in a second step, AFAIK with its build-in GhostScript.

This is a normal LilyPond run (in German); it mentions the  
intermediate .ps file and the conversion:

hraban$ lilypond test.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.12.2
»test.ly« wird verarbeitet
Analysieren...
Interpretation der Musik...
Vorverarbeitung der grafischen Elemente...
Ideale Seitenanzahl wird gefunden...
Musik wird auf eine Seite angepasst...
Systeme erstellen...
Layout nach »test.ps« ausgeben...
Konvertierung nach »./test.pdf«...


This is the LilyPond run as executed by t-lilypond:

hraban$ lilypond -dbackend=eps -dno-gs-load-fonts -dinclude-eps-fonts - 
ddelete-intermediate-files -o"test" test.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.12.2
»test.ly« wird verarbeitet
Analysieren...
Interpretation der Musik...
Vorverarbeitung der grafischen Elemente...
Ideale Seitenanzahl wird gefunden...
Musik wird auf eine Seite angepasst...
Systeme erstellen...
Layout nach »test-1.eps« ausgeben...
Konvertierung nach »./test-1.pdf«...
Layout nach »test.eps« ausgeben...
Konvertierung nach »./test.pdf«...
.../LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/scm/backend- 
library.scm:149:21: In procedure delete-file in expression (delete- 
file (string-append base "." ...)):
.../LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/scm/backend- 
library.scm:149:21: No such file or directory

You see it creates from the one input file two EPS and PDF files each,  
that seem exactly the same - I'll investigate and ask on the LilyPond  
mailing list.
The error message isn't nice either, but it doesn't seem to hurt -  
maybe it's about the useless files, since it mentions "delete-file".



Greetlings from Lake Constance!
Hraban
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