Hi Hans, Hi Taco, Hi all, a couple of days ago I complained about not adapted delimiters around constructions with \atopwithdelims. With LuaTeX, Version beta-0.41.0-2009070222 (Web2C 2009), this problem persists. After reading the last luatexref-t.pdf I tried following: \starttext \Ustartmath\Ustack {a \atopwithdelims() b}\Ustopmath \startformula \Ustack {a \overwithdelims[] b} \stopformula \stoptext Greetings Lutz