Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts

[Lutz Haseloff <lutz.haseloff@googlemail.com>]

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Hi Thomas,

You are right, "stand-salarm" is definitely wrong. I think too, that LuaTex
should hyphenate the word
like given in \hyphenation{}. It seems that \hyphenation{} is ignored.

Greetings Lutz


2009/7/9 Thomas Floeren <thomas.floeren@boschung.com>

>
> Hi Lutz,
>
> Thanks for your answer.
> According to my (reformed) Duden both manöv-rieren and manö-vrieren are
> correct (in prereform orthography manöv-rieren was not allowed); see also
> ei-nan-der|ein-an-der, in-te-res-sant|in-ter-es-sant etc.
>
> But this is not the problem. You can try any other arbitrary example:
>
> \de
> \hyphenation{fräs-schleu-der schmutz-be-häl-ter-was-ser-stands-alarm}
> \starttext
> \hyphenatedword{Frässchleuder}
> \hyphenatedword{Schmutzbehälterwasserstandsalarm}
> \stoptext
>
>
> Greetings
> Thomas
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl [mailto:ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl] On
> Behalf Of Lutz Haseloff
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 6:55 AM
> To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts
>
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> after changing lefthyphenmin for de in lang-ger.tex to "2" I was able to
> hyphenate your word
> after the Duden rules ma-nö-vrie-ren. I think, in german "v" can't be a
> syllable.
>
> Greetings Lutz
>
> see: http://www.duden.de/definition/man%C3%B6vrieren
>
>
>
>
> 2009/7/8 <thomas.floeren@mac.com>
>
>
>
>        On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Peter Rolf wrote:
>
>
>                Thomas Floeren schrieb:
>
>                         Taco Hoekwater <mailto:taco@elvenkind.com>
> <mailto:taco@elvenkind.com>  scribbled on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:34
> PM:
>
>
>
>                                Thomas Floeren wrote:
>
>
>                                        Hi,
>
>                                        I stumbled upon a problem with my
> hyphenation list:
>
>                                        In MKIV, all the words in the list
> that contain umlauts are
>                                        completely ignored. MKII is fine.
>
>
>                                Luatex 0.40.5 is broken in this regard,
> sorry.
>
>                                (The problem is that the exception handling
> uses \lccodes
>                                for the *byte* range 128-255, which is quite
> wrong). This is
>                                serious enough that there will be a 0.40.6
> later in the week.
>
>                                Best wishes,
>                                Taco
>
>
>                        Well, in my other mail I said that it worked
> perfectly now with 0.40.6, but this isn’t entirely true:
>
>                        It works perfectly on Mac, Linux and Win Vista. But
> for any obscure reason I can not get it to work on Win XP (to which I’m
> bound at work, unfortunately).
>
>                        Linux and WinVista are running as virtual machines
> on Mac Intel systems, WinXP is running nonvirtually on PC.
>
>                        In order to minimize installation differences I have
> even copied the entire context folder from Vista to the XP machine
> (including binaries, minimals, texmf-local), trashed the caches, remade the
> formats ... but still no UTF hyphenation exceptions on the XP-PC.
>
>                        Do you - or anybody - have an idea of what the
> reason for this could be?
>                        Some stupid small thing that I have overlooked?
>
>
>                Just tried your example code and I also get wrong
> hyphenation on XP.
>
>                This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.6-2009070100 (Web2C 2009)
> luatex.web >= v13958
>                MTXrun | current version: 2009.06.14 21:01
>
>                Sorry, also no clue what goes wrong...
>
>
>
>                                                        Maybe I should pose
> my question differently:
>        Is there anybody on WinXP who can typeset my minimal (below) as
> intended?
>
>        (I’m aware that not many people on this list are using MS systems, I
> personally also prefer working systems, but at work I’m (still) restricted
> to MS-XP.
>        So this problem is of uttermost importance for me.
>        I hope the ConTeXt support for MS systems will not be dropped too
> soon, there are still people out there dependent on those OSs)
>
>        Here’s the minimal again:
>
>        \de
>        \hyphenation{ma-nö-v-rie-ren}
>        \starttext
>        \hyphenatedword{manövrieren}
>        \stoptext
>
>        Thanks again for any help or hint
>        Tom
>
>
>
>                        Any help is appreciated
>                        Thanks
>
>                        Thomas
>
>
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