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From: Denis Maier via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
To: <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Cc: denis.maier@unibe.ch
Subject: Re: french quotation marks
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2022 18:26:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a81879140c2e4f669faadb910de27619@unibe.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220726121343.3dd855f6@boo.my.domain>

Here is what the french Wikipedia page says:


    Méthode avec doubles guillemets-apostrophes : « L’ouvreuse m’a dit : “Donnez-moi votre ticket.” Je le lui ai donné. »

    Recommandée en français canadien[19],[20] et utilisée par de nombreuses publications françaises tel que le journal Le Monde[21].

    Méthode avec doubles guillemets répétés : « L’ouvreuse m’a dit : « Donnez-moi votre ticket. » Je le lui ai donné. »

    Recommandée par l'Imprimerie nationale et aussi sur Wikipédia en français, conformément à ses conventions typographiques. Noter que l’Imprimerie nationale recommande l’omission de l’un des guillemets fermants en cas de cumul de guillemets quand une citation se termine sur une citation incluse[22].

    Méthode avec simples guillemets : « L’ouvreuse m’a dit : ‹ Donnez-moi votre ticket. › Je le lui ai donné. »

    Recommandée en typographie suisse, avec des espaces fines insécables[23].


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Von: ntg-context <ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl> im Auftrag von Alan via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Juli 2022 20:13:43
An: Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
Cc: Alan
Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] french quotation marks

On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 13:38:34 +0200
Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> Am 26.07.22 um 11:48 schrieb Arthur Rosendahl:
> > On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 09:51:35PM +0200, Henning Hraban Ramm via
> > ntg-context wrote:
> >> Hi, according to my knowledge (and also Wikipedia), French uses «
> >> … » as double (\quotation) and ‹ … › as single (\quote) quotation
> >> marks.
> >>
> >> The current setting in ConTeXt however is « … » for both, just
> >> with less spacing for \quote.
> >> If no francophone user objects I’d suggest to fix this.
> >
> >    I object :-)  Single chevrons are not used at all in typography
> > from France.  I read however on
> > https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillemet that they are in
> > Switzerland, hence if that can be confirmed there could be an
> > option for Swiss French; but in the mean time I think that the
> > current setup should stay as it is.
>
> Ok, thank you!
> So the German Wikipedia as well as “DUDEN Satz und Korrektur“ are
> wrong.

I agree with Arthur. The use of < > would be an anglicism.

Alan
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      reply	other threads:[~2022-07-26 18:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-12 19:51 Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
2022-07-26  9:48 ` Arthur Rosendahl via ntg-context
2022-07-26 11:38   ` Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
2022-07-26 18:13     ` Alan via ntg-context
2022-07-26 18:26       ` Denis Maier via ntg-context [this message]

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