* m-ipsum broken
@ 2021-01-24 1:10 Jairo A. del Rio
2021-01-24 12:40 ` Hans Hagen
2021-01-24 15:44 ` new font trickery Hans Hagen
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From: Jairo A. del Rio @ 2021-01-24 1:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi, list
Compiling m-ipsum yields an error in latest LMTX (2021.01.22 09:41)
Jairo
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* Re: m-ipsum broken
2021-01-24 1:10 m-ipsum broken Jairo A. del Rio
@ 2021-01-24 12:40 ` Hans Hagen
2021-01-24 15:44 ` new font trickery Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2021-01-24 12:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Jairo A. del Rio
On 1/24/2021 2:10 AM, Jairo A. del Rio wrote:
> Hi, list
>
> Compiling m-ipsum yields an error in latest LMTX (2021.01.22 09:41)
not only the latest i think ... lua became more strict on escapes over
time ... i'll update the interface
Hans
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2021-01-24 1:10 m-ipsum broken Jairo A. del Rio
2021-01-24 12:40 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2021-01-24 15:44 ` Hans Hagen
2021-01-24 16:34 ` Pablo Rodriguez
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2021-01-24 15:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Jairo A. del Rio
Hi Jairo,
(to the list for those who want to play with it)
In addition to the metapost fotn subsystem I also made a tex variant.
That one is currently based on setups. So, we now can use mp as well as
tex to make fonts. Of course this is mostly for special purposes and for
fun but both are quite efficient.
\starttext
\setupexternalfigure[directory={global,default}]
\startsetups box:demo:103
\externalfigure[cow-brown.pdf][height=12pt]
\stopsetups
\startsetups box:demo:104
\externalfigure[cow-black.pdf][height=10pt]
\stopsetups
\startsetups box:demo:105
\externalfigure[mill.png][height=12pt]
\stopsetups
\startsetups box:demo:106
\externalfigure[hacker.jpg][height=12pt]
\stopsetups
\registerboxglyph category {demo} unicode 103 \relax % rather low level
for now
\registerboxglyph category {demo} unicode 104 \relax % rather low level
for now
\registerboxglyph category {demo} unicode 105 \relax % rather low level
for now
\registerboxglyph category {demo} unicode 106 \relax % rather low level
for now
\definefontfeature[whatever][box=demo]
\definedfont[Serif*whatever]
% \enabletrackers[fonts.collecting]
\startTEXpage%[offset=0pt]
%\hbox{g}%
\hbox{\char103}%
\hbox{\char104}%
\stopTEXpage
\startsetups box:demo:whatever
\startMPcode
picture p ; p := image (draw figure "hacker.jpg" ysized 10pt);
fill boundingbox p enlarged .5pt randomized 2pt withcolor
"darkgray" ;
clip p to boundingbox p enlarged -1pt randomized 2pt ;
draw p ;
\stopMPcode
\stopsetups
% in current font!
\iffontchar\font\privatecharactercode{demo:whatever}\else
\setboxglyph {
category {demo}
name {demo:whatever}
setups {box:demo:whatever}
}%
\fi
\startTEXpage[offset=10pt]
\char\privatecharactercode{demo:whatever}%
\stopTEXpage
\startTEXpage%[offset=0pt]
\ruledhbox{\char103}
\ruledhbox{\char104}
\ruledhbox{\char105}
\ruledhbox{\char106}
\stopTEXpage
\dorecurse{1000}{
\char 103\relax \space
\char 104\relax \space
\char 105\relax \space
\char 106\relax \space
}
\page
\setupalign[verytolerant,flushleft]
\dorecurse{100}{
#1:
\glyph yoffset -2pt `i\relax
\glyph yoffset -3pt `j\relax\space
}
\stoptext
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* new font trickery
@ 2020-12-22 21:28 Hans Hagen
2020-12-23 10:36 ` mf
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2020-12-22 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
I finally decided to start an experiment that I had on my todo list for
a while: dynamically scaling fonts. Below is an example of usage (plus
some comment). In that example some 2*200 different font sizes are used
which in mkiv demands 400 font definitions. This costs time and memory.
The example below runs (on my old laptop) in less than 2 seconds and
only uses two instances. I bet that our CJK users will love it.
I post it because:
(1) I need to discuss the impact with Wolfgang ... how do we integrate
this. We can for instance define some sizes (\tfa \tfb ...) differently.
(2) I want to see if average performance improves on huge documents with
many fonts / sizes (that is for Massimiliano to test).
(3) Are there side effects? It does work for math (rather neat trickery)
but maybe we need an additional configration for that.
(4) I considered several variants but for now use a low level
\glyphscale command that takes a number (in goodl old tex tradition a
scale of 1.0 is entered as 1000).
(5) The implementation can be improved a bit (performance wise). There
is a bit more overhead involved but usually I can compensate that.
(6) It will not be backported to MKIV so one can only test in LMTX.
it's a bit of a mix between engine and context features.
(7) There can be bugs (unforseen side effects, or typos in the somewhat
quick patches in the source).
Consider it an experiment, but so far I'm rather satisfied,
Hans
%%%% EXAMPLE %%%%
\setuplayout[middle]
\setupbodyfont[pagella,10pt]
\setupalign[verytolerant,stretch]
\setupwhitespace[big]
\starttext
\startbuffer
\definescaledfont[bfe][scale=2000,style=bf]
\setuphead[chapter][style=\bfe]
\dostepwiserecurse {10} {2020} {10} {
\title{Here we go #1!}
\start
\glyphscale#1\relax
\setupinterlinespace
\samplefile{ward}%
\bf
\samplefile{ward}
\par
\stop
\page
}
\stopbuffer
\getbuffer
\title{Scaled fonts}
Although \CONTEXT\ is quite efficient with fonts there is always room for
improvement. However, after years of finetuning the font mechanisms
there was not
that much room left. This made me think of a different approach to scaling.
Nowadays fonts seldom come in design sizes. Also, in \CONTEXT\ \MKIV\ and
therefore \LMTX\ we always had so called dynamic features: apply additional
features locally, although that comes with a small penalty in
performance, it
saves additional font instances. It is a good approach for the
occasional small
stretch of glyphs, like small capped logos and such.
We now can also do dynamic font scaling, which means that we don't need
to define
a new font instance when the same feature set is used. Or course in
addition to
this features one can still use the dynamic features. This means that for
instance chapter titling can use the bodyfont instance and just apply
additional
scaling. Although for a normal run the number of loaded fonts is
normally small,
and the number of instances also isn't that impressive it can happen in
a large
document that you end up with a few dozen. That number can now be
reduced to half
a dozen.
Of course there can be side effects, whcich is why it's currently tagged as
experimental. There is also a small performance hit because we now need
to track
it but that is gained back because we load less fonts and have less
glyph runs.
It even works in math, although there some different trickery is needed.
\typebuffer
\stoptext
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2020-12-22 21:28 Hans Hagen
@ 2020-12-23 10:36 ` mf
2020-12-23 10:46 ` Hans Hagen
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From: mf @ 2020-12-23 10:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
When I started using ConTeXt, font management gave me headaches because
I expected fonts to be indefinitely scalable and not to be designed in
advance at fixed sizes.
That came from using software like Word, where fonts are scalable at any
size. Since I had no background in typesetting, I took vector,
indefinitely scalable fonts for granted.
With that mindset a 48pt font is just a 10pt font scaled 4.8 times.
Then I knew about optical sizes, which were the norm with lead glyphs,
because they came in heavy physical sets. And so the notion that as the
font body gets bigger, the stroke gets thinner (so it's not just scaling).
I like this feature because it should make playing with sizes easier for
people while lighter for machines, even though fixed sizes to be
designed in advance enforce discipline and consistency in documents.
Massi
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* Re: new font trickery
2020-12-23 10:36 ` mf
@ 2020-12-23 10:46 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2020-12-23 10:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, mf
On 12/23/2020 11:36 AM, mf wrote:
> When I started using ConTeXt, font management gave me headaches because
> I expected fonts to be indefinitely scalable and not to be designed in
> advance at fixed sizes.
>
> That came from using software like Word, where fonts are scalable at any
> size. Since I had no background in typesetting, I took vector,
> indefinitely scalable fonts for granted.
> With that mindset a 48pt font is just a 10pt font scaled 4.8 times.
>
> Then I knew about optical sizes, which were the norm with lead glyphs,
> because they came in heavy physical sets. And so the notion that as the
> font body gets bigger, the stroke gets thinner (so it's not just scaling).
>
> I like this feature because it should make playing with sizes easier for
> people while lighter for machines, even though fixed sizes to be
> designed in advance enforce discipline and consistency in documents.
Of course we can still keep the abstraction because we can define
sizes, think of:
\definescaledfont[bfe][xscale=2000,yscale=6000,style=bf]
(just made this feature work in two directions, not yet uploaded).
But you're right, we have to educate users in this.
Actually, I was wondering iif this could be abused to do vertical hz ...
filling a vbox / page with subtle scaling. It should be relatively easy
to implement, so when I'm bored ...
Hans
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