* typesetting Arabic today @ 2008-06-01 16:31 Burak Emir 2008-06-02 6:29 ` Wolfgang Schuster 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Burak Emir @ 2008-06-01 16:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 770 bytes --] Hi, First of all, I'd wish to express my thanks to the makers of and contributors to ConTeXt - it is quite a pleasure to use so far. Now for my concern: I want to typeset Arabic. What would I use? I am aware of ArabTex, I haven't yet tried Omega... however, I followed some presentations for LuaTeX and typesetting Arabic was mentioned there as motivation. This is how I got to ConTeXt in the first place. Trying the documentation, I ended up on the following page which says "TODO" http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Arabic_and_Hebrew I also searched mail archives, but the mails I found on this subject were from 2003, so I thought it is worth probing for an update. Any news or hints appreciated. Thanks, Burak -- Burak Emir -- http://burak.emir.googlepages.com [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 968 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: typesetting Arabic today 2008-06-01 16:31 typesetting Arabic today Burak Emir @ 2008-06-02 6:29 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2008-06-02 18:43 ` Idris Samawi Hamid 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-06-02 6:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Burak Emir <burak.emir@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > First of all, I'd wish to express my thanks to the makers of and > contributors to ConTeXt - it is quite a pleasure to use so far. > > Now for my concern: I want to typeset Arabic. > > What would I use? > > I am aware of ArabTex, I haven't yet tried Omega... however, I followed some > presentations for LuaTeX and typesetting Arabic was mentioned there as > motivation. This is how I got to ConTeXt in the first place. Omega is dead or nearly dead and part of the code is integrated in LuaTeX. > Trying the documentation, I ended up on the following page which says "TODO" > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Arabic_and_Hebrew > > I also searched mail archives, but the mails I found on this subject were > from 2003, so I thought it is worth probing for an update. > > Any news or hints appreciated. The MkIV manual [1] has a section about arabic, you try the following code with LuaTeX or XeTeX (should work). \definefontfeature [arab-default] [mode=node,language=dflt,script=arab, init=yes,medi=yes,fina=yes,isol=yes, liga=yes,dlig=yes,rlig=yes,clig=yes, mark=yes,mkmk=yes,kern=yes,curs=yes] \definefont[ArabFont][arabtype*arab-default at 18pt] \starttext Normal text. {\ArabFont Your arabic text.} \stoptext arabtype in \definefont is the name of your font and you should replace it with one available on your system. [1] http://pragma-ade.nl/show-man-41.htm Greetings Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: typesetting Arabic today 2008-06-02 6:29 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-06-02 18:43 ` Idris Samawi Hamid 2008-06-02 19:18 ` Idris Samawi Hamid 2008-06-07 20:09 ` Burak Emir 0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Idris Samawi Hamid @ 2008-06-02 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3017 bytes --] Hi, Somehow, the original post from Burak never made it to my mailbox, strange... Anyway: On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:29:32 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Burak Emir <burak.emir@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> First of all, I'd wish to express my thanks to the makers of and >> contributors to ConTeXt - it is quite a pleasure to use so far. >> >> Now for my concern: I want to typeset Arabic. >> >> What would I use? luaTeX and mkiv. XeTeX is there but stick with luaTeX if possible. >> I am aware of ArabTex, I haven't yet tried Omega... however, I followed >> some >> presentations for LuaTeX and typesetting Arabic was mentioned there as >> motivation. This is how I got to ConTeXt in the first place. > > Omega is dead or nearly dead and part of the code is integrated in > LuaTeX. > >> Trying the documentation, I ended up on the following page which says >> "TODO" >> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Arabic_and_Hebrew http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Aleph_Guide was once the main guide. Aleph was a merge of etex and Omega, succeeded by luatex. You can still use the old Omega way of doing things in luatex -- as explained in that guide, but it's better to use the new mechanism and opentype fonts. >> >> I also searched mail archives, but the mails I found on this subject >> were >> from 2003, so I thought it is worth probing for an update. I should write one; will put this on the todo list... >> Any news or hints appreciated. > > The MkIV manual [1] has a section about arabic, you try the following > code > with LuaTeX or XeTeX (should work). XeTeX is there but stick with luaTeX if possible. > \definefontfeature > [arab-default] > [mode=node,language=dflt,script=arab, > init=yes,medi=yes,fina=yes,isol=yes, > liga=yes,dlig=yes,rlig=yes,clig=yes, > mark=yes,mkmk=yes,kern=yes,curs=yes] > > \definefont[ArabFont][arabtype*arab-default at 18pt] > > \starttext > > Normal text. > > {\ArabFont Your arabic text.} > > \stoptext This example misses the direction parameters. Try the attached file. If you are on XP then the Traditional Arabic font is already on your system. You will notice that vowels do not work well with Traditional Arabic. Uncomment the line %\font \TradArabic = arabtype*test at 28pt and see the difference (arabtype comes with vista but you can google and download it). The problem is that Uniscribe has text-processing info that is not in Traditional Arabic font, and that font was designed for Windows systems only. Eventually we will be able to oveload OpenType features to correct this kind of (mis)behavior. Note also that you may only use utf-8, not Windows-1256 etc! Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 [-- Attachment #2: traditional_arabic-test.tex --] [-- Type: application/x-tex, Size: 1692 bytes --] [-- Attachment #3: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: typesetting Arabic today 2008-06-02 18:43 ` Idris Samawi Hamid @ 2008-06-02 19:18 ` Idris Samawi Hamid 2008-06-04 0:24 ` Burak Emir 2008-06-07 20:09 ` Burak Emir 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Idris Samawi Hamid @ 2008-06-02 19:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:43:04 -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid <ishamid@colostate.edu> wrote: >> Omega is dead or nearly dead It's dead, only the funeral and burial remain to be done ;-) Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: typesetting Arabic today 2008-06-02 19:18 ` Idris Samawi Hamid @ 2008-06-04 0:24 ` Burak Emir 2008-06-06 6:44 ` Wolfgang Schuster 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Burak Emir @ 2008-06-04 0:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1383 bytes --] Hi, Thanks a lot for the answers, they saved me from going down abandoned paths. I have installed mkiv and have not yet figured out out how to run luatex on that attached file... but will try a bit more before asking newbie questions, I feel I should at least try to look at dome documentation before asking newbie questions : ) Burak On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid <ishamid@colostate.edu> wrote: > On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:43:04 -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid > <ishamid@colostate.edu> wrote: > > >> Omega is dead or nearly dead > > It's dead, only the funeral and burial remain to be done ;-) > > Best wishes > Idris > > -- > Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief > International Journal of Shi`i Studies > Department of Philosophy > Colorado State University > Fort Collins, CO 80523 > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- Burak Emir -- http://burak.emir.googlepages.com [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2293 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: typesetting Arabic today 2008-06-04 0:24 ` Burak Emir @ 2008-06-06 6:44 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2008-06-06 7:43 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-06-06 6:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Burak Emir <burak.emir@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks a lot for the answers, they saved me from going down abandoned paths. > > I have installed mkiv and have not yet figured out out how to run luatex on > that attached file... but will try a bit more before asking newbie > questions, I feel I should at least try to look at dome documentation before > asking newbie questions : ) ConTeXt should use normally use LauTeX by itself for the file because the first line in the file is "% engine=luatex", you could call process the file with "texexec --lua myfile" and LuaTeX will be used because of the lua parameter. You could test it with a example file, place the following lines in a file test.tex % engine=luatex \starttext Text \stoptext and process it with "texexec test" and take a look at the document proferences, the field PDF-Producer should contain something like luaTeX-0.25.3. Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: typesetting Arabic today 2008-06-06 6:44 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-06-06 7:43 ` Hans Hagen 2008-06-07 10:37 ` Burak Emir 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2008-06-06 7:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Burak Emir <burak.emir@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Thanks a lot for the answers, they saved me from going down abandoned paths. >> >> I have installed mkiv and have not yet figured out out how to run luatex on >> that attached file... but will try a bit more before asking newbie >> questions, I feel I should at least try to look at dome documentation before >> asking newbie questions : ) > > ConTeXt should use normally use LauTeX by itself for the file because the first > line in the file is "% engine=luatex", you could call process the file with > "texexec --lua myfile" and LuaTeX will be used because of the lua parameter. or use 'context yourfile' which is independent of ruby and also faster Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: typesetting Arabic today 2008-06-06 7:43 ` Hans Hagen @ 2008-06-07 10:37 ` Burak Emir 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Burak Emir @ 2008-06-07 10:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1972 bytes --] Thanks all. I will follow up in a moment with separate threads describing problems I am encountering. Burak On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Burak Emir <burak.emir@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Thanks a lot for the answers, they saved me from going down abandoned > paths. > >> > >> I have installed mkiv and have not yet figured out out how to run luatex > on > >> that attached file... but will try a bit more before asking newbie > >> questions, I feel I should at least try to look at dome documentation > before > >> asking newbie questions : ) > > > > ConTeXt should use normally use LauTeX by itself for the file because the > first > > line in the file is "% engine=luatex", you could call process the file > with > > "texexec --lua myfile" and LuaTeX will be used because of the lua > parameter. > > or use 'context yourfile' which is independent of ruby and also faster > > Hans > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- Burak Emir -- http://burak.emir.googlepages.com [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3330 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: typesetting Arabic today 2008-06-02 18:43 ` Idris Samawi Hamid 2008-06-02 19:18 ` Idris Samawi Hamid @ 2008-06-07 20:09 ` Burak Emir 2008-06-07 20:18 ` Idris Samawi Hamid 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Burak Emir @ 2008-06-07 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Idris Samawi Hamid [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 652 bytes --] Hi again, On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid <ishamid@colostate.edu> wrote: > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Aleph_Guide > > was once the main guide. Aleph was a merge of etex and Omega, succeeded by > luatex. You can still use the old Omega way of doing things in luatex -- as > explained in that guide, but it's better to use the new mechanism and > opentype fonts. > My luatex is not working for the moment, I am using the context minimals distribution on MacOS X. Would the old Omega way documented on that page also work with the xetex engine? Thanks + kind regards, Burak -- Burak Emir -- http://burak.emir.googlepages.com [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1116 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: typesetting Arabic today 2008-06-07 20:09 ` Burak Emir @ 2008-06-07 20:18 ` Idris Samawi Hamid 2008-06-07 20:48 ` Burak Emir 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Idris Samawi Hamid @ 2008-06-07 20:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Burak Emir, mailing list for ConTeXt users Hi, Burak, On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:09:14 -0600, Burak Emir <burak.emir@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi again, > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid > <ishamid@colostate.edu> > wrote: > > >> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Aleph_Guide >> >> was once the main guide. Aleph was a merge of etex and Omega, succeeded >> by >> luatex. You can still use the old Omega way of doing things in luatex >> -- as >> explained in that guide, but it's better to use the new mechanism and >> opentype fonts. >> > > My luatex is not working for the moment, I am using the context minimals > distribution on MacOS X. > > Would the old Omega way documented on that page also work with the xetex > engine? No, XeTeX does not support Omega/Aleph commands. If you find an aleph binary for Mac I guess you could try that, but don't give up on luaTeX just yet, I'm sure someone on the list will figure out what's wrong.... Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: typesetting Arabic today 2008-06-07 20:18 ` Idris Samawi Hamid @ 2008-06-07 20:48 ` Burak Emir 2008-06-07 20:58 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Burak Emir @ 2008-06-07 20:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Idris Samawi Hamid; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1616 bytes --] On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid <ishamid@colostate.edu> wrote: > Hi, Burak, > Hi Idris, > > > On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:09:14 -0600, Burak Emir <burak.emir@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi again, >> >> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid <ishamid@colostate.edu >> > >> wrote: >> >> >> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Aleph_Guide >>> >>> was once the main guide. Aleph was a merge of etex and Omega, succeeded >>> by >>> luatex. You can still use the old Omega way of doing things in luatex -- >>> as >>> explained in that guide, but it's better to use the new mechanism and >>> opentype fonts. >>> >>> >> My luatex is not working for the moment, I am using the context minimals >> distribution on MacOS X. >> >> Would the old Omega way documented on that page also work with the xetex >> engine? >> > > No, XeTeX does not support Omega/Aleph commands. If you find an aleph > binary for Mac I guess you could try that, but don't give up on luaTeX just > yet, I'm sure someone on the list will figure out what's wrong.... > I did not have the intention of giving up : ) Mojca suggested I try to source in setuptex, I will try that next then. I was just waiting if somebody might reply to Jean. Let me ask another question then: once luatex works, how can I make use of the ttf font? I suppose it is not as simple as copying it in the fonts/truetype directory and running mktexlsr? I had a glance at the mfonts.pdf manual, and I already installed FontForge aka pfaedit, but I do not know yet how it all plays together. Thanks, Burak -- Burak Emir -- http://burak.emir.googlepages.com [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2713 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: typesetting Arabic today 2008-06-07 20:48 ` Burak Emir @ 2008-06-07 20:58 ` Idris Samawi Hamid 2008-06-07 21:04 ` Mojca Miklavec 2008-06-07 21:11 ` Hans Hagen 2 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Idris Samawi Hamid @ 2008-06-07 20:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Burak Emir; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users Salaam, On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:48:29 -0600, Burak Emir <burak.emir@gmail.com> wrote: > I did not have the intention of giving up : ) Mojca suggested I try to > source in setuptex, I will try that next then. I was just waiting if > somebody might reply to Jean. Good luck ;-) > Let me ask another question then: once luatex works, how can I make use > of > the ttf font? I suppose it is not as simple as copying it in the > fonts/truetype directory and running mktexlsr? Forget mktexlsr. Just put the font in your working directory or the main Mac directory (I don't know Mac) and luatex wil pick it up, if all has been configured correctly. See also the sample file I sent. luaTeX just searches the default font folder, Windows/Fonts in my case. > I had a glance at the mfonts.pdf manual, and I already installed > FontForge > aka pfaedit, but I do not know yet how it all plays together. Why do you need FF? Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: typesetting Arabic today 2008-06-07 20:48 ` Burak Emir 2008-06-07 20:58 ` Idris Samawi Hamid @ 2008-06-07 21:04 ` Mojca Miklavec 2008-06-07 21:11 ` Hans Hagen 2 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2008-06-07 21:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Idris Samawi Hamid On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 10:48 PM, Burak Emir wrote: > > Let me ask another question then: once luatex works, how can I make use of > the ttf font? I suppose it is not as simple as copying it in the > fonts/truetype directory and running mktexlsr? Yes, you only need to copy the font to fonts/truetype or fonts/opentype (but use some subfolders) or set export OSFONTSDIR=/path/to/your/fonts and run luatoos --generate which is the mkiv equivalent of mktexlsr (not even sure if that's still needed). Afterwards, you can use the font with \font\a="font name" \a but you probably need arabic features (and high-level interface is preferred). \definefontsynonym[myfont][name:Name of Your Font][features=default] but probably not default for Arabic. I let Idris answer that question. > I had a glance at the mfonts.pdf manual, and I already installed FontForge > aka pfaedit, but I do not know yet how it all plays together. You don't need any of it. Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: typesetting Arabic today 2008-06-07 20:48 ` Burak Emir 2008-06-07 20:58 ` Idris Samawi Hamid 2008-06-07 21:04 ` Mojca Miklavec @ 2008-06-07 21:11 ` Hans Hagen 2008-06-07 21:45 ` Burak Emir 2 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2008-06-07 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Idris Samawi Hamid Burak Emir wrote: > Let me ask another question then: once luatex works, how can I make use of > the ttf font? I suppose it is not as simple as copying it in the > fonts/truetype directory and running mktexlsr? there is no mktexlsr in mkiv ... just luatools --generate (or context --generate) just put the fonts someplace hwere they can be found then run luatools --generate mtxrun --script font --reload and aterthat you can access the font by filename (lookup is case insensitive) or by name (know variants of the name) > I had a glance at the mfonts.pdf manual, and I already installed FontForge > aka pfaedit, but I do not know yet how it all plays together. it's much simpler than that ... idris can tell you .. no need for texfont etc Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: typesetting Arabic today 2008-06-07 21:11 ` Hans Hagen @ 2008-06-07 21:45 ` Burak Emir [not found] ` <op.ucee5qyrnx1yh1@your-b27fb1c401> ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Burak Emir @ 2008-06-07 21:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Cc: Hans Hagen, Idris Samawi Hamid, Mojca Miklavec [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1649 bytes --] On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > > it's much simpler than that ... idris can tell you .. no need for > texfont etc > Thanks, all! This is great. I did not expect font handling to be so easy. Yes I was trying texfont.pl, the scary perl script. One thing I found suspicious: I tried to find out whether OSFONTSDIR supports several ':' separated directories (on Mac OS, there is /Library/Fonts and ~/Library/Fonts), by setting OSFONTSDIR and rerunning luatools --generate. However, I did not see a change in the numbers of indexed files. In any case, after settings fonts up and compiling (texexec --luatex traditional_arabic-test.tex), my font is not found currently... Here is what I did, in detail > export OSFONTSDIR=/Users/buraq/Library/Fonts > ls $OSFONTSDIR/arabtype.ttf /Users/buraq/Library/Fonts/arabtype.ttf > luatools --generate > mtxrun --script font --reload > texexec --luatex traditional_arabic-test.tex ... define font | font with name arabtype is not found define font | unknown font arabtype, loading aborted ! Font \TradArabic=arabtype*test2 at 28pt not loadable: metric data not found or bad. Is there an easy way to find out which fonts are known to the system? (after luatools --generate) Here are the relevant source lines (slightly changed from Idris' example file) \definefontfeature [test2] [mode=node,language=dflt,script=arab, init=yes,medi=yes,fina=yes,isol=yes, liga=yes,dlig=yes,rlig=yes,clig=yes, mark=yes,mkmk=yes,kern=yes,curs=yes] \font \TradArabic = arabtype*test2 at 28pt kind regards, Burak -- Burak Emir -- http://burak.emir.googlepages.com [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2223 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
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* Re: typesetting Arabic today [not found] ` <op.ucee5qyrnx1yh1@your-b27fb1c401> @ 2008-06-07 22:03 ` Burak Emir 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Burak Emir @ 2008-06-07 22:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Idris Samawi Hamid Selaam, On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 11:54 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid <ishamid@colostate.edu> wrote: > On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:45:20 -0600, Burak Emir <burak.emir@gmail.com> > wrote: > Here is what I did, in detail > >> >> export OSFONTSDIR=/Users/buraq/Library/Fonts >>> ls $OSFONTSDIR/arabtype.ttf >>> >> /Users/buraq/Library/Fonts/arabtype.ttf >> >>> luatools --generate >>> mtxrun --script font --reload >>> texexec --luatex traditional_arabic-test.tex >>> >> ... >> define font | font with name arabtype is not found >> define font | unknown font arabtype, loading aborted >> ! Font \TradArabic=arabtype*test2 at 28pt not loadable: metric data not >> found or bad. >> > > I'm curious, does it work if you put the font in the current directory? > Yes, this worked! : D What a pleasure to see the fruits of debugging. Shukran : ) Can one tell "luatools --generate" to see which path it picks up from OSFONTSDIR? There are some nice arabic fonts that come with Mac systems (or maybe, they came with the KeyNote or Pages, I don't know) Burak -- Burak Emir -- http://burak.emir.googlepages.com ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: typesetting Arabic today 2008-06-07 21:45 ` Burak Emir [not found] ` <op.ucee5qyrnx1yh1@your-b27fb1c401> @ 2008-06-07 22:28 ` Burak Emir 2008-06-08 6:22 ` Burak Emir 2 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Burak Emir @ 2008-06-07 22:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Cc: Hans Hagen, Idris Samawi Hamid, Taco Hoekwater, Mojca Miklavec [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 665 bytes --] Hi everybody, I want to say a big thank you to everybody who answered my questions today! With your help, I was able to * debug my broken environment setting * learn about the setuptex script I should use * learn about font handling, in source files and in file hierarchy (though the latter does not quite work yet) * make my local context script run again (you may want to fix it in release?) * learn how I can revert to a previous release by date So in short, though some problems are ongoing, with your help my luatex setup works now. I will stop firing questions at the list for today :-) cheers, Burak -- Burak Emir -- http://burak.emir.googlepages.com [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 779 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: typesetting Arabic today 2008-06-07 21:45 ` Burak Emir [not found] ` <op.ucee5qyrnx1yh1@your-b27fb1c401> 2008-06-07 22:28 ` Burak Emir @ 2008-06-08 6:22 ` Burak Emir 2 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Burak Emir @ 2008-06-08 6:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Mojca Miklavec [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 595 bytes --] Hi there, On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 11:45 PM, Burak Emir <burak.emir@gmail.com> wrote: > > In any case, after settings fonts up and compiling (texexec --luatex > traditional_arabic-test.tex), my font is not found currently... > > Here is what I did, in detail > > > export OSFONTSDIR=/Users/buraq/Library/Fonts > This was the problem solved: the correct name of the variable was OSFONTDIR. I was delighted to find out that one can pass in a list of directory names: only one needs to use ';' (semicolon) as separator instead of colon. Burak -- Burak Emir -- http://burak.emir.googlepages.com [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 980 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
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