Problem with PDF bookmarks (outline)

Problem with PDF bookmarks (outline)

[Michał Goliński]

A few weeks back I've asked here about the structure of titles, as the 
PDF bookmarks didn't work for me. I was given a solution, which should 
work, but unfortunately it doesn't. I don't know if this is a bug or is 
this expected behaviour.

For the file:

\setupinteraction[state=start]
\placebookmarks[part,chapter,section]
\setupinteractionscreen[option=bookmark]
\starttext
\placecontent

\startfrontmatter
  \startchapter[title=Prologue]
  \input knuth
  \stopchapter
\stopfrontmatter

\startpart[title={Part A}]
   \startchapter[title=One]
   \input knuth
   \stopchapter
\stoppart

\startbackmatter
  \startchapter[title=Epilogue]
  \input knuth
  \stopchapter
\stopbackmatter
\stoptext


ConTeXt (Mk IV) generates a PDF file which has only one item in the 
bookmarks -- the Prologue. The other chapters show up only if the file 
is changed with

\placebookmarks[chapter,section]

but then of course there is no sign of Part A in the bookmarks.

I would expect the bookmarks to look like this:

Prologue
Part A
   One
Epilogue

Regards
Michał
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Re: Problem with PDF bookmarks (outline)

[Robert Blackstone]

On 4 Nov 2014, at 15:27 , Michał Goliński <golinski@amu.edu.pl>  wrote
> 
> A few weeks back I've asked here about the structure of titles, as the 
> PDF bookmarks didn't work for me. I was given a solution, which should 
> work, but unfortunately it doesn't. I don't know if this is a bug or is 
> this expected behaviour.
> 
> For the file:
> 
> \setupinteraction[state=start]
> \placebookmarks[part,chapter,section]
> \setupinteractionscreen[option=bookmark]
> \starttext
> \placecontent
> 
> \startfrontmatter
>  \startchapter[title=Prologue]
>  \input knuth
>  \stopchapter
> \stopfrontmatter
> 
> \startpart[title={Part A}]
>   \startchapter[title=One]
>   \input knuth
>   \stopchapter
> \stoppart
> 
> \startbackmatter
>  \startchapter[title=Epilogue]
>  \input knuth
>  \stopchapter
> \stopbackmatter
> \stoptext
> 
> 
> ConTeXt (Mk IV) generates a PDF file which has only one item in the 
> bookmarks -- the Prologue. The other chapters show up only if the file 
> is changed with
> 
> \placebookmarks[chapter,section]
> 
> but then of course there is no sign of Part A in the bookmarks.
> 
> I would expect the bookmarks to look like this:
> 
> Prologue
> Part A
>   One
> Epilogue

Hi, 
I think it is a  very recent bug. Only the standalone I installed  today gives the same wrong result that you get. 
My previous standalones, of which the most recent was installed two days ago, on  november 2, all give the correct result. That is, the bookmarks look OK but Part A starts on empty page 3 (no head) and Chapter 1 starts on page 4.
Is that really what you want?


Best regards,
Robert Blackstone
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Re: Problem with PDF bookmarks (outline)

[Michał Goliński]

W dniu 2014-11-04 20:00, Robert Blackstone napisał(a):
> On 4 Nov 2014, at 15:27 , Michał Goliński <golinski@amu.edu.pl>  wrote
>> 
>> A few weeks back I've asked here about the structure of titles, as the
>> PDF bookmarks didn't work for me. I was given a solution, which should
>> work, but unfortunately it doesn't. I don't know if this is a bug or 
>> is
>> this expected behaviour.
>> 
>> For the file:
>> 
>> \setupinteraction[state=start]
>> \placebookmarks[part,chapter,section]
>> \setupinteractionscreen[option=bookmark]
>> \starttext
>> \placecontent
>> 
>> \startfrontmatter
>>  \startchapter[title=Prologue]
>>  \input knuth
>>  \stopchapter
>> \stopfrontmatter
>> 
>> \startpart[title={Part A}]
>>   \startchapter[title=One]
>>   \input knuth
>>   \stopchapter
>> \stoppart
>> 
>> \startbackmatter
>>  \startchapter[title=Epilogue]
>>  \input knuth
>>  \stopchapter
>> \stopbackmatter
>> \stoptext
>> 
>> 
>> ConTeXt (Mk IV) generates a PDF file which has only one item in the
>> bookmarks -- the Prologue. The other chapters show up only if the file
>> is changed with
>> 
>> \placebookmarks[chapter,section]
>> 
>> but then of course there is no sign of Part A in the bookmarks.
>> 
>> I would expect the bookmarks to look like this:
>> 
>> Prologue
>> Part A
>>   One
>> Epilogue
> 
> Hi,
> I think it is a  very recent bug. Only the standalone I installed
> today gives the same wrong result that you get.
> My previous standalones, of which the most recent was installed two
> days ago, on  november 2, all give the correct result. That is, the
> bookmarks look OK but Part A starts on empty page 3 (no head) and
> Chapter 1 starts on page 4.
> Is that really what you want?
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Robert Blackstone

The file I am really trying to compile has also:

\setuphead[part][placehead=yes]

I've stripped that when making an MWE as it doesn't change the behaviour 
of the bookmarks.

I am quite sure, that the problem was in beta much older than few days 
(although I do not update daily, so it might have been ok in between). 
The behaviour is the same in TeXLive 2014.



Tangentially related problem. The table of contents in the file differs 
between the two versions (beta and TeXLive), in TeXLive I get:

Prologue
1 Part A
1.1 One
Epilogue

and in beta with the same file I get only:

1 Part A
1.1 One

Regards
Michał
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Re: Problem with PDF bookmarks (outline)

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/5/2014 10:34 AM, Michał Goliński wrote:
> W dniu 2014-11-04 20:00, Robert Blackstone napisał(a):
>> On 4 Nov 2014, at 15:27 , Michał Goliński <golinski@amu.edu.pl>  wrote
>>>
>>> A few weeks back I've asked here about the structure of titles, as the
>>> PDF bookmarks didn't work for me. I was given a solution, which should
>>> work, but unfortunately it doesn't. I don't know if this is a bug or is
>>> this expected behaviour.
>>>
>>> For the file:
>>>
>>> \setupinteraction[state=start]
>>> \placebookmarks[part,chapter,section]
>>> \setupinteractionscreen[option=bookmark]
>>> \starttext
>>> \placecontent
>>>
>>> \startfrontmatter
>>>  \startchapter[title=Prologue]
>>>  \input knuth
>>>  \stopchapter
>>> \stopfrontmatter
>>>
>>> \startpart[title={Part A}]
>>>   \startchapter[title=One]
>>>   \input knuth
>>>   \stopchapter
>>> \stoppart
>>>
>>> \startbackmatter
>>>  \startchapter[title=Epilogue]
>>>  \input knuth
>>>  \stopchapter
>>> \stopbackmatter
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>>
>>> ConTeXt (Mk IV) generates a PDF file which has only one item in the
>>> bookmarks -- the Prologue. The other chapters show up only if the file
>>> is changed with
>>>
>>> \placebookmarks[chapter,section]
>>>
>>> but then of course there is no sign of Part A in the bookmarks.
>>>
>>> I would expect the bookmarks to look like this:
>>>
>>> Prologue
>>> Part A
>>>   One
>>> Epilogue
>>
>> Hi,
>> I think it is a  very recent bug. Only the standalone I installed
>> today gives the same wrong result that you get.
>> My previous standalones, of which the most recent was installed two
>> days ago, on  november 2, all give the correct result. That is, the
>> bookmarks look OK but Part A starts on empty page 3 (no head) and
>> Chapter 1 starts on page 4.
>> Is that really what you want?
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Robert Blackstone
>
> The file I am really trying to compile has also:
>
> \setuphead[part][placehead=yes]
>
> I've stripped that when making an MWE as it doesn't change the behaviour
> of the bookmarks.
>
> I am quite sure, that the problem was in beta much older than few days
> (although I do not update daily, so it might have been ok in between).
> The behaviour is the same in TeXLive 2014.
>
>
>
> Tangentially related problem. The table of contents in the file differs
> between the two versions (beta and TeXLive), in TeXLive I get:
>
> Prologue
> 1 Part A
> 1.1 One
> Epilogue
>
> and in beta with the same file I get only:
>
> 1 Part A
> 1.1 One

bookmarks assume some hierarchical structure and the parts mixed with no 
parts and sections confuses it ... i can have a look at it but not today

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Re: Problem with PDF bookmarks (outline)

[Alan BRASLAU]

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 12:36:38 +0100
Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> bookmarks assume some hierarchical structure and the parts mixed with
> no parts and sections confuses it ... i can have a look at it but not
> today

I use parts, not chapters in frontmatter/backmatter
when using parts in bodymatter.

Alan
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Re: Problem with PDF bookmarks (outline)

[Michał Goliński]

W dniu 2014-11-05 14:01, Alan BRASLAU napisał(a):
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 12:36:38 +0100
> Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> 
>> bookmarks assume some hierarchical structure and the parts mixed with
>> no parts and sections confuses it ... i can have a look at it but not
>> today
> 
> I use parts, not chapters in frontmatter/backmatter
> when using parts in bodymatter.
> 
> Alan

Thanks to Hans's reply I am able to make it work with the current 
structure.

I am nevertheless curious, how one could change the chapters in 
frontmatter/backmatter to parts without affecting the numbering of later 
parts (or correct the numbering, \decrementnumber[part] doesn't seem to 
work).



I have tried to mimic the chapter style with

\definehead[chapterpart][part][command=\MyFancyChapterStyle, number=no, 
incrementnumber=yes]

And it either disrupts the numbering (incrementnumber=yes) or doesn't 
show up in bookmarks (incrementnumber=no).


I have tried also a "ghost part" to use around chapters:

\definehead[ghostpart][part][placehead=no, incrementnumber=no]

but turns out it doesn't help:

\startpart[title=First]
\startchapter[title=A]
\stopchapter
\stoppart

\startghostpart
\startchapter[title=Epilogue]
\stopchapter
\stopghostpart

Epilogue is still a child of the First part in the bookmarks.

Regards,

Michał
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Re: Problem with PDF bookmarks (outline)

[Alan BRASLAU]

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 15:36:38 +0100
Michał Goliński <golinski@amu.edu.pl> wrote:

> W dniu 2014-11-05 14:01, Alan BRASLAU napisał(a):
> > On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 12:36:38 +0100
> > Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> > 
> >> bookmarks assume some hierarchical structure and the parts mixed
> >> with no parts and sections confuses it ... i can have a look at it
> >> but not today
> > 
> > I use parts, not chapters in frontmatter/backmatter
> > when using parts in bodymatter.
> > 
> > Alan
> 
> Thanks to Hans's reply I am able to make it work with the current 
> structure.
> 
> I am nevertheless curious, how one could change the chapters in 
> frontmatter/backmatter to parts without affecting the numbering of
> later parts (or correct the numbering, \decrementnumber[part] doesn't
> seem to work).
> 

I use

\definestructureresetset [default] [0,0] [1] % do not reset parts and chapters
\setuphead [part]
        [
        sectionresetset=default,conversion=Romannumerals,
        placehead=yes,
        bodypartlabel=part, % strange that this must be defined...
        ]

and in frontmatter the parts do not get numbered,
in bodymatter they get Part I Title ...
in backmatter they do not get numbered.

Bookmarks work fine. Note that only acrobat (now defunct)
is the only reader that I know that handles bookmarks.

Alan
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Re: Problem with PDF bookmarks (outline)

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/5/2014 3:36 PM, Michał Goliński wrote:

> I am nevertheless curious, how one could change the chapters in
> frontmatter/backmatter to parts without affecting the numbering of later
> parts (or correct the numbering, \decrementnumber[part] doesn't seem to
> work).

the magic words is 'resetset' and you can search for it on the wiki and 
in the test suite .. you can control when gets reset at what level

Hans

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Re: Problem with PDF bookmarks (outline)

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/5/2014 10:34 AM, Michał Goliński wrote:
> W dniu 2014-11-04 20:00, Robert Blackstone napisał(a):
>> On 4 Nov 2014, at 15:27 , Michał Goliński <golinski@amu.edu.pl>  wrote
>>>
>>> A few weeks back I've asked here about the structure of titles, as the
>>> PDF bookmarks didn't work for me. I was given a solution, which should
>>> work, but unfortunately it doesn't. I don't know if this is a bug or is
>>> this expected behaviour.
>>>
>>> For the file:
>>>
>>> \setupinteraction[state=start]
>>> \placebookmarks[part,chapter,section]
>>> \setupinteractionscreen[option=bookmark]
>>> \starttext
>>> \placecontent
>>>
>>> \startfrontmatter
>>>  \startchapter[title=Prologue]
>>>  \input knuth
>>>  \stopchapter
>>> \stopfrontmatter
>>>
>>> \startpart[title={Part A}]
>>>   \startchapter[title=One]
>>>   \input knuth
>>>   \stopchapter
>>> \stoppart
>>>
>>> \startbackmatter
>>>  \startchapter[title=Epilogue]
>>>  \input knuth
>>>  \stopchapter
>>> \stopbackmatter
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>>
>>> ConTeXt (Mk IV) generates a PDF file which has only one item in the
>>> bookmarks -- the Prologue. The other chapters show up only if the file
>>> is changed with
>>>
>>> \placebookmarks[chapter,section]
>>>
>>> but then of course there is no sign of Part A in the bookmarks.
>>>
>>> I would expect the bookmarks to look like this:
>>>
>>> Prologue
>>> Part A
>>>   One
>>> Epilogue
>>
>> Hi,
>> I think it is a  very recent bug. Only the standalone I installed
>> today gives the same wrong result that you get.
>> My previous standalones, of which the most recent was installed two
>> days ago, on  november 2, all give the correct result. That is, the
>> bookmarks look OK but Part A starts on empty page 3 (no head) and
>> Chapter 1 starts on page 4.
>> Is that really what you want?
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Robert Blackstone
>
> The file I am really trying to compile has also:
>
> \setuphead[part][placehead=yes]
>
> I've stripped that when making an MWE as it doesn't change the behaviour
> of the bookmarks.
>
> I am quite sure, that the problem was in beta much older than few days
> (although I do not update daily, so it might have been ok in between).
> The behaviour is the same in TeXLive 2014.
>
>
>
> Tangentially related problem. The table of contents in the file differs
> between the two versions (beta and TeXLive), in TeXLive I get:
>
> Prologue
> 1 Part A
> 1.1 One
> Epilogue
>
> and in beta with the same file I get only:
>
> 1 Part A
> 1.1 One

The bookmark mechanism was largely redone so that one could control teh 
list in detail (in lua). It also is possible now to inherit bookmarks 
from included pages from pdf files. In the process some restrictions on 
structure were added, but also some more options.

I'll try to catch this fuzzy structure case (also issuing a message), 
but one option is to add

\setupbookmarks
   [sectionblock=yes]


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Re: Problem with PDF bookmarks (outline)

[Gareth Jones]

On 04/11/14 19:00, Robert Blackstone wrote:
> Hi, 
> I think it is a  very recent bug. Only the standalone I installed  today gives the same wrong result that you get.

The PDF index seems broken this week for me too.  Last Monday’s build
generated the bookmarks properly, but this week there are none.  The
set-ups I’m using are:

\pdfcompresslevel=9
\mainlanguage [en-gb]
\setupinteraction
[
	state=start,
	title={...},
	author={Gareth Jones},
	color=black,
	style=normal,
]
\setupinteractionscreen [option=bookmark]
\placebookmarks [all]
% Some font stuff trimmed.
\definehead [spec] [title] [style=\tfd, alternative=middle]
\definehead [phase]   [section]       [style=\ss\bfc]
\definehead [feature] [subsection]    [style=\ss\bfb]
\definehead [changes] [subsubsection] [style=\ss\tfa]
\definedescription [change] [width=3.6cm]
\starttext

Previously all but the spec/title header were bookmarked.

I’ve no idea if this is in any way related to Michał’s problem though.

Thanks,
Gareth
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