referencing footnotes in another place

referencing footnotes in another place

[Andrea Valle]

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Hi to all,

the only thing I don't like in -TeX packages approach while writing  
is that I have to attach the footnotes to their indices.
ConTeXt is so clever. Isn't there a way to store the footnotes in  
another place of the file (or in another file, that's the same) and  
referring to the in the text.
When I have many footnotes in the source I get crazy to follow the  
body text.

I mean, with an exemplum fictum

This is my footnote\fn{myfn}, even if it's just my imagination

so that there's a way to a have

myfn = just a note

Maybe with buffers?
I'm an ignorant on the matter

Thanks

-a-

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Andrea Valle
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CIRMA - DAMS
Università degli Studi di Torino
--> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/
--> andrea.valle@unito.it
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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.
(Annabel Chong)



--------------------------------------------------
Andrea Valle
--------------------------------------------------
CIRMA - DAMS
Università degli Studi di Torino
--> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/
--> andrea.valle@unito.it
--------------------------------------------------


I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.
(Annabel Chong)





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Re: referencing footnotes in another place

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

Hi Andrea,

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:22:09 -0700, Andrea Valle <valle@di.unito.it> wrote:

> Hi to all,
>
> the only thing I don't like in -TeX packages approach while writing
> is that I have to attach the footnotes to their indices.
> ConTeXt is so clever. Isn't there a way to store the footnotes in
> another place of the file (or in another file, that's the same) and
> referring to the in the text.
> When I have many footnotes in the source I get crazy to follow the
> body text.
>
> I mean, with an exemplum fictum
>
> This is my footnote\fn{myfn}, even if it's just my imagination
>
> so that there's a way to a have
>
> myfn = just a note
>
> Maybe with buffers?
> I'm an ignorant on the matter

Hmm, this is interesting. Basically this would involve something like the  
bibliography module {tag + database}. Could be useful for organizing  
things like critical-edition apparati.

OTOH for large projects this could get a bit unwieldy and unmanageable.

Better in my view is to use an editor that supports folding, use a  
\start-stopfootnote macro, and fold them out of site when not needed (I  
have this in the Notepad++ setup).

Another idea is a lua script that texexec could use to label and/or move  
all the notes to a separate database for analyses or other processing.

It all needs thought...

Best wishes
Idris

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Colorado State University
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Re: referencing footnotes in another place

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:46:49 -0700, Idris Samawi Hamid  
<ishamid@colostate.edu> wrote:

> Better in my view is to use an editor that supports folding, use a
> \start-stopfootnote macro, and fold them out of site when not needed

<UGH> ...and fold them out of sight when not needed...

Embarrassed,
I
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Re: referencing footnotes in another place

[Andrea Valle]

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(Ah well, I'm a recordman for typos...:-))

I was thinking too about the database approach, but a system of  
replacements would be enough for my needs.
It would allow me to organize better the source files.

> OTOH for large projects this could get a bit unwieldy and  
> unmanageable.

Yes, that's true. But I was thinking about e.g. an article with long  
footnotes

> Better in my view is to use an editor that supports folding, use a
> \start-stopfootnote macro, and fold them out of site when not  
> needed (I
> have this in the Notepad++ setup).

This is a possibility, indeed

> Another idea is a lua script that texexec could use to label and/or  
> move
> all the notes to a separate database for analyses or other processing.

Of course it would be interesting for critical editions.
My main concern was not so advanced. The separation between body text  
and footnotes is
the only thing I miss from wysisyg.

Best

-a-




> It all needs thought...
>
> Best wishes
> Idris
>
> -- 
> Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
> International Journal of Shi`i Studies
> Department of Philosophy
> Colorado State University
> Fort Collins, CO 80523
>
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Università degli Studi di Torino
--> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/
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I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.
(Annabel Chong)





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Re: referencing footnotes in another place

[Andrea Valle]

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Hi,

just to know, are there other suggestions?

Best

-a-


On 16 Nov 2007, at 01:22, Andrea Valle wrote:

> Hi to all,
>
> the only thing I don't like in -TeX packages approach while writing  
> is that I have to attach the footnotes to their indices.
> ConTeXt is so clever. Isn't there a way to store the footnotes in  
> another place of the file (or in another file, that's the same) and  
> referring to the in the text.
> When I have many footnotes in the source I get crazy to follow the  
> body text.
>
> I mean, with an exemplum fictum
>
> This is my footnote\fn{myfn}, even if it's just my imagination
>
> so that there's a way to a have
>
> myfn = just a note
>
> Maybe with buffers?
> I'm an ignorant on the matter
>
> Thanks
>
> -a-
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> Andrea Valle
> --------------------------------------------------
> CIRMA - DAMS
> Università degli Studi di Torino
> --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/
> --> andrea.valle@unito.it
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault.  
> Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving  
> this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss  
> Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance,  
> or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much  
> information.
> (Annabel Chong)
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> Andrea Valle
> --------------------------------------------------
> CIRMA - DAMS
> Università degli Studi di Torino
> --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/
> --> andrea.valle@unito.it
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault.  
> Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving  
> this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss  
> Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance,  
> or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much  
> information.
> (Annabel Chong)
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________ 
> _____________
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an  
> entry to the Wiki!
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--------------------------------------------------
Andrea Valle
--------------------------------------------------
CIRMA - DAMS
Università degli Studi di Torino
--> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/
--> andrea.valle@unito.it
--------------------------------------------------


I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.
(Annabel Chong)





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Re: referencing footnotes in another place

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, Andrea Valle wrote:

> Hi,
>
> just to know, are there other suggestions?

There is a module by Guiseppe for epigrams. Maybe it is possible to adapt 
it for footnotes.

Aditya
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Re: referencing footnotes in another place

[Andrea Valle]

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Ah, thanks, I'll take a look (Where?).
Now I'm tweaking with buffers

Best

-a-


On 22 Nov 2007, at 14:20, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, Andrea Valle wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> just to know, are there other suggestions?
>
> There is a module by Guiseppe for epigrams. Maybe it is possible to  
> adapt
> it for footnotes.
>
> Aditya
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Andrea Valle
--------------------------------------------------
CIRMA - DAMS
Università degli Studi di Torino
--> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/
--> andrea.valle@unito.it
--------------------------------------------------


I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.
(Annabel Chong)





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Re: referencing footnotes in another place

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, Andrea Valle wrote:

> Ah, thanks, I'll take a look (Where?).

http://modules.contextgarden.net/xdesc

Aditya
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