From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/39507 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aditya Mahajan Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: mplib Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:51:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: References: <47DAB3FD.2050503@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205517120 31702 80.91.229.12 (14 Mar 2008 17:52:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:52:00 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Mar 14 18:52:29 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JaE4o-00048G-8x for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:52:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A0D1FC11; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:51:43 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05533-04-5; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:51:01 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F261FB89; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:51:01 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3EE1FB89 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:51:00 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05533-04-4 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:50:23 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from skycaptain.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.93.160]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569961FB77 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:50:23 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: FROM udhcp-wlan60.public.engin.umich.edu (udhcp-wlan60.public.engin.umich.edu [141.213.120.70]) BY skycaptain.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 47DABADB.ED54.12944 ; 14 Mar 2008 13:50:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: <47DAB3FD.2050503@wxs.nl> User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:39507 Archived-At: On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Hans Hagen wrote: > Hi, > > as some of you may know, there is an mplib project .. > > last week taco and spent quite some time on exploring the integration in > luatex (and therefore mkiv) > > experiments with loadiing the format, processing graphics and conversion > to pdf show a throughput of less than 0.001 seconds per graphic; a usual > we did much timing and although experimental, the code is already pretty > okay, just to give an idea: > > mkiv lua stats : metapost processing time - 6.834 seconds (loading: > 0.014 seconds, execution: 1.474 seconds, n: 15000) > > indeed, that's 15K graphics in 7 seconds. That is really impressive. > so, the next couple of months i'll start providing an adapted mp > handling mechanisms. among the possible options are > > - extensions based on pre/postscripts (instead of specials) > - multiple mp engines (\startuseMPgraphic[metafun]{name} and such) > > so, if you have specific wishes ... now is the time to let them know Some questions (and hidden wishes) Does this mean that text between metapost graphic and context can be really transparent? Currently \sometxt does not work with all macros, (like an old feature request by Mojca to have two optional arguments for setting the font in the gnuplot module). Will mplib mean that the metapost code can place any tex box at the desired location? One thing which is really shaky in the current implementation is page anchors. That is, marking something in a paragraph and then using the page background to draw lines between different elements. Will such things be easier to do and work correctly with display math? (I want to use these effects in presentations, but have never managed to get a satisfactory solution that works in display math). I am assuming that there will be hooks so that packages like tikz to move to a mplib backend. Thanks, Aditya ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________