From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/42022 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aditya Mahajan Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: ConTeXt, Framemaker, and InDesign Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: References: <68c491a60806301518j17ac58c8i4fe002a6dbb1f3a3@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323329-438427043-1214884732=:8783" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214884651 16147 80.91.229.12 (1 Jul 2008 03:57:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 03:57:31 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Jul 01 05:58:16 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KDX0Q-0003ri-DU for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Jul 2008 05:58:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FAE1FDDA; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 05:57:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22264-02-2; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 05:56:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABCF01FCDD; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 05:56:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DFC1FCDD for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 05:56:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21863-02-5 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 05:56:13 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.93.161]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368DF1FCBB for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 05:55:44 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: FROM adi-laptop.local (c-68-40-40-75.hsd1.mi.comcast.net [68.40.40.75]) BY tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4869AABC.2F0F4.8066 ; 30 Jun 2008 23:55:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:42022 Archived-At: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323329-438427043-1214884732=:8783 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Mon, 30 Jun 2008, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: > Hi Martin, > > On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:18:37 -0600, Martin Schr=C3=B6der > wrote: > >> 2008/6/30 Idris Samawi Hamid : >>> What does ConTeXt have that Framemaker does not? >> >> I don't know about ConTeXt, but I know that something like LaTeX's >> \include/\includeonly was a new feature of Frame 7 (from 2002). > > What is \include/\includeonly? > Suppose you are writing a book with 15 chapters, and it takes a long time= =20 to compile your chapters. In LaTeX, you can include each chapter using=20 \include {name of file} and then add a command \includeonly{a few=20 chapters} on the top of your file. Only the chapters specified by=20 \includeonly are included. So, it saves a lot of time in compiling the=20 file. (I think there is also a command to exclude specific chapters). It is roughly similar to compiling only a component of a big project in=20 ConTeXt. However, I feel that the latex version works better since it=20 maintains the numbering of chapters, etc. For example, in latex if I include chapter 3 of a big book, its chapter=20 number will be 3, and all the cross references to material outside that=20 chapter will be correct. In Context, if I compile the component containing chapter 3, its number=20 will start from 1. I can get correct cross references by using=20 \usereferences (and ignore the duplicate references warning), but the=20 numbering of the compiled component is incorrect. This is one are where I= =20 wish context had better support. Note that latex's method is not perfect. \include starts a new page, but=20 that way it can ensure that the materical of included file is somewhat=20 isolated with rest of the material. Context's \component does not start a= =20 new page, which is often times useful. Aditya --8323329-438427043-1214884732=:8783 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ --8323329-438427043-1214884732=:8783--