From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/45297 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aditya Mahajan Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: MkII vs. MkIV Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:00:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: References: <20081104200615.GA2264@atos.labs.wmid.amu.edu.pl> <420A16D6-319B-49F6-8B52-F7E7FDF5618B@gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225854128 11694 80.91.229.12 (5 Nov 2008 03:02:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:02:08 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Nov 05 04:03:08 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KxYfh-0001l0-3L for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 04:03:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C451FB30; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 04:01:55 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01978-01; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 04:00:45 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77F91FB89; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 04:00:45 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80301FB89 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 04:00:43 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 32348-04-13 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 04:00:07 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from skycaptain.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.93.160]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4791FB77 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 04:00:06 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: FROM adi-laptop.local (c-71-234-195-113.hsd1.ct.comcast.net [71.234.195.113]) BY skycaptain.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 49110C35.675D6.3924 ; 4 Nov 2008 22:00:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: <420A16D6-319B-49F6-8B52-F7E7FDF5618B@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:45297 Archived-At: On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > > Am 04.11.2008 um 21:20 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: > >> On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Marcin Borkowski wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Is it normal that output from MkII and MkIV are different in terms of >>> page breaks? >> >> Yes. In MKII the interline space is hard coded. MKIV gets the >> interline >> space from the font. So, you will get different page breaks. I >> experienced >> around 2-5 pages difference in a 100 page document. > > The interlinespace in MkII and MkIV is the same and both use a distance > of 2.8ex between the lines. Yes, but ex means different dimensions in pdftex and luatex. For example \starttext 1ex = \the\dimexpr1ex\relax \crlf 2.8ex = \the\dimexpr2.8ex\relax \stoptext gives in MKII 1ex = 5.16667pt 2.8ex = 14.46669pt and in MKIV gives 1ex = 5.172pt 2.8ex = 14.4816pt The reason is that what ex means is hardcoded in MKII but MKIV gets this info from the font. For example, if I use palatino at 12pt, the result in MKII does not change, but MKIV gives 1ex = 5.388pt 2.8ex = 15.08641pt So, depending on the font, MKII and MKIV can have considerably different lines per page. Aditya ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________