* beta: \vi (mkiv)
@ 2009-03-09 13:53 Peter Rolf
2009-03-09 14:43 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Peter Rolf @ 2009-03-09 13:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
currently trying the latest(?) beta from 08.03.2009. No problems with
colors so far...
But a simple font size switch like '\vi' has no effect here.
\starttext
Regular size and {\vi six point}?
\stoptext
Also the 'lazy' \z@ has vanished (too many sideeffects?). RIP.
Best wishes, Peter
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2009-03-09 13:53 beta: \vi (mkiv) Peter Rolf
@ 2009-03-09 14:43 ` Hans Hagen
2009-03-09 16:38 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-03-09 14:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Peter Rolf wrote:
> Hi,
>
> currently trying the latest(?) beta from 08.03.2009. No problems with
> colors so far...
> But a simple font size switch like '\vi' has no effect here.
>
> \starttext
> Regular size and {\vi six point}?
> \stoptext
>
> Also the 'lazy' \z@ has vanished (too many sideeffects?). RIP.
indeed. \z@ and \p@ are gone as are \@ne and \m@ne
also, the \v \vi \vii and sich are gone as they were artefacts form the
previous century
feel free to make a compaibility module ...
\let\p@\onepoint
and such
plain tabs are still there but isolated in a core module
also some low level math stuff goes away like m@th as it does not help
readability
Hans
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2009-03-09 14:43 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2009-03-09 16:38 ` Aditya Mahajan
2009-03-09 16:53 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2009-03-09 16:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Peter Rolf wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> currently trying the latest(?) beta from 08.03.2009. No problems with
>> colors so far...
>> But a simple font size switch like '\vi' has no effect here.
>>
>> \starttext
>> Regular size and {\vi six point}?
>> \stoptext
>>
>> Also the 'lazy' \z@ has vanished (too many sideeffects?). RIP.
>
> indeed. \z@ and \p@ are gone as are \@ne and \m@ne
>
> also, the \v \vi \vii and sich are gone as they were artefacts form the
> previous century
>
> feel free to make a compaibility module ...
>
> \let\p@\onepoint
We will definitely need this, at least for getting tikz to work with
ConTeXt.
Aditya
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2009-03-09 16:38 ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2009-03-09 16:53 ` Hans Hagen
2009-03-09 16:57 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-03-09 16:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> Peter Rolf wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> currently trying the latest(?) beta from 08.03.2009. No problems with
>>> colors so far...
>>> But a simple font size switch like '\vi' has no effect here.
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>> Regular size and {\vi six point}?
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> Also the 'lazy' \z@ has vanished (too many sideeffects?). RIP.
>>
>> indeed. \z@ and \p@ are gone as are \@ne and \m@ne
>>
>> also, the \v \vi \vii and sich are gone as they were artefacts form
>> the previous century
>>
>> feel free to make a compaibility module ...
>>
>> \let\p@\onepoint
>
> We will definitely need this, at least for getting tikz to work with
> ConTeXt.
ok, but separated from the code; it's no problem to load it by default,
but context internally will not use them
Hans
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2009-03-09 16:53 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2009-03-09 16:57 ` Aditya Mahajan
2009-03-09 17:06 ` Hans Hagen
2009-03-09 17:07 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2009-03-09 16:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>> On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Rolf wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> currently trying the latest(?) beta from 08.03.2009. No problems with
>>>> colors so far...
>>>> But a simple font size switch like '\vi' has no effect here.
>>>>
>>>> \starttext
>>>> Regular size and {\vi six point}?
>>>> \stoptext
>>>>
>>>> Also the 'lazy' \z@ has vanished (too many sideeffects?). RIP.
>>>
>>> indeed. \z@ and \p@ are gone as are \@ne and \m@ne
>>>
>>> also, the \v \vi \vii and sich are gone as they were artefacts form the
>>> previous century
>>>
>>> feel free to make a compaibility module ...
>>>
>>> \let\p@\onepoint
>>
>> We will definitely need this, at least for getting tikz to work with
>> ConTeXt.
>
> ok, but separated from the code; it's no problem to load it by default, but
> context internally will not use them
definitely. It should be part of the distribution, so that someone writing
a module that works with both ConTeXt and LaTeX does not need to know both
systems inside out.
And a similar package for LaTeX, having most programming features present
in ConTeXt, will be nice :)
Aditya
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2009-03-09 16:57 ` Aditya Mahajan
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Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> And a similar package for LaTeX, having most programming features
> present in ConTeXt, will be nice :)
to some extend, writing a latex compatibilty layer for context should be
doable ... a bunch of commands (begin/end ..) and some lua expresions
... but we let others define the reasonable subset
Hans
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2009-03-09 16:57 ` Aditya Mahajan
2009-03-09 17:06 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2009-03-09 17:07 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-03-09 17:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, Hans Hagen wrote:
> definitely. It should be part of the distribution, so that someone
> writing a module that works with both ConTeXt and LaTeX does not need to
> know both systems inside out.
this is probably all we need:
\unprotect
\let \p@ \onepoint
\let \z@ \zeropoint
\let \@ne \plusone
\let \m@ne \minusone
\protect \endinput
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