\section and luatex

\section and luatex

[Mohamed Bana]

\section Current Activities

displays

1 C
  urrent Activities


could you please allow \section Other to use the entire word not just 
the first Letter. 


And how do I tell if LuaTeX is 64bit?

$ luatex --version
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.39.0-2009041607 luatex.web v2298

$ context --version
MTXrun | main context file: 
/home/mbana/context.distro/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
MTXrun | current version: 2009.04.18 13:47


Many thanks
Mohamed
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Re: \section and luatex

[Alex Lubberts]

On zo, 2009-04-19 at 11:36 +0100, Mohamed Bana wrote:
> \section Current Activities
> 
> displays
> 
> 1 C
>   urrent Activities
> 
> 
> could you please allow \section Other to use the entire word not just 
> the first Letter. 

\section is like any other command. All commands take the first
character as parameter. If you want to have a longer parameter you have
to put {}'s around it, like:

\section{Current Activities}

Regards,
Alex


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Re: \section and luatex

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 19.04.2009 um 12:53 schrieb Alex Lubberts:

> \section is like any other command. All commands take the first
> character as parameter.

Not in MkII, it was also possible to use the end of the paragraph as  
delimiter.

Wolfgang


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Re: \section and luatex

[Hans Hagen]

Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> 
> Am 19.04.2009 um 12:53 schrieb Alex Lubberts:
> 
>> \section is like any other command. All commands take the first
>> character as parameter.
> 
> Not in MkII, it was also possible to use the end of the paragraph as 
> delimiter.

indeed, and i dropped it in mkiv, where we have:

\chapter [ref] {title}
\chapter {title}

and, when ownnumbers are used:

\chapter [ref] {nr} {title}
\chapter       {nr} {title}

and, when structure is wanted (at least that is the idea):

\startchapter [settings] [userdata]

where the first argument sets the title, reference, bookmark, etc and 
the second is up to the user who then can request that info; userdata is 
carried around also in lists (an example of userdata can be an image 
name that is used in typesetting the title as well has to show up in the 
toc; examples of usage will show up in due time)

the mkiv mechanism is also more clever in the sense that it deals with 
roundtrip xml and such


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Re: \section and luatex

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, Mohamed Bana wrote:

> \section Current Activities
>
> displays
>
> 1 C
> urrent Activities
>
>
> could you please allow \section Other to use the entire word not just the 
> first Letter. 
>
> And how do I tell if LuaTeX is 64bit?
>
> $ luatex --version
> This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.39.0-2009041607 luatex.web v2298
>
> $ context --version
> MTXrun | main context file: 
> /home/mbana/context.distro/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
> MTXrun | current version: 2009.04.18 13:47

Add this somewhere (old code, not tested with latest beta)

\def\dodohandlestructureheadnop[#1][#2]%
   {\dowithpargument{\dododohandlestructureheadnop[#1][#2]}}

\def\dododohandlestructureheadnop[#1][#2]#3%
   {\setfalse\currentstructureown
    \dohandlestructurehead{#1}{\c!reference=#2,\c!title={#3}}{}} % name ref nr title --


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Re: \section and luatex

[Mohamed Bana]

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If it isn't too much trouble, please just add it back.  I'm sure it was
working in LuaTeX one point in time.
 -- Mohamed

2009/4/19 Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu>

> On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, Mohamed Bana wrote:
>
>  \section Current Activities
>>
>> displays
>>
>> 1 C
>> urrent Activities
>>
>>
>> could you please allow \section Other to use the entire word not just the
>> first Letter.
>> And how do I tell if LuaTeX is 64bit?
>>
>> $ luatex --version
>> This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.39.0-2009041607 luatex.web v2298
>>
>> $ context --version
>> MTXrun | main context file:
>> /home/mbana/context.distro/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
>> MTXrun | current version: 2009.04.18 13:47
>>
>
> Add this somewhere (old code, not tested with latest beta)
>
> \def\dodohandlestructureheadnop[#1][#2]%
>  {\dowithpargument{\dododohandlestructureheadnop[#1][#2]}}
>
> \def\dododohandlestructureheadnop[#1][#2]#3%
>  {\setfalse\currentstructureown
>   \dohandlestructurehead{#1}{\c!reference=#2,\c!title={#3}}{}} % name ref
> nr title --
>
>
> Aditya
>
>
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Re: \section and luatex

[Mohamed Bana]

Hi Aditya,

Any chance of getting Hans to include that again.  I'm certain that it 
worked with LuaTeX before, e.g., your thesis.

 -- Bana

Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, Mohamed Bana wrote:
>
>> \section Current Activities
>>
>> displays
>>
>> 1 C
>> urrent Activities
>>
>>
>> could you please allow \section Other to use the entire word not just 
>> the first Letter.
>> And how do I tell if LuaTeX is 64bit?
>>
>> $ luatex --version
>> This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.39.0-2009041607 luatex.web v2298
>>
>> $ context --version
>> MTXrun | main context file: 
>> /home/mbana/context.distro/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex 
>>
>> MTXrun | current version: 2009.04.18 13:47
>
> Add this somewhere (old code, not tested with latest beta)
>
> \def\dodohandlestructureheadnop[#1][#2]%
>   {\dowithpargument{\dododohandlestructureheadnop[#1][#2]}}
>
> \def\dododohandlestructureheadnop[#1][#2]#3%
>   {\setfalse\currentstructureown
>    \dohandlestructurehead{#1}{\c!reference=#2,\c!title={#3}}{}} % name 
> ref nr title --
>
>
> Aditya
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Re: \section and luatex

[Hans Hagen]

Mohamed Bana wrote:
> Hi Aditya,
> 
> Any chance of getting Hans to include that again.  I'm certain that it 
> worked with LuaTeX before, e.g., your thesis.

it could become part if a compatibility module, but no longer in the core

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Re: \section and luatex

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Wed, 22 Apr 2009, Mohamed Bana wrote:

> Hi Aditya,
>
> Any chance of getting Hans to include that again.

Ask Hans :) I like the "loose" style of not having to put the braces, but 
it is not really a show stopper for me.

I am happy with local changes or simply changing my input.

Here is a vim  regex to make the change.

s/\\\(\(sub\)*\(section\|subject\|title\|chapter\)\)\s\+\([^{]\_.\{-\}\)\n\n/
\\\1\ {\4}\r\r/g

> I'm certain that it worked 
> with LuaTeX before, e.g., your thesis.

That was before the xp code merged to mkiv.

Aditya

> -- Bana
>
> Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, Mohamed Bana wrote:
>> 
>>> \section Current Activities
>>> 
>>> displays
>>> 
>>> 1 C
>>> urrent Activities
>>> 
>>> 
>>> could you please allow \section Other to use the entire word not just the 
>>> first Letter.
>>> And how do I tell if LuaTeX is 64bit?
>>> 
>>> $ luatex --version
>>> This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.39.0-2009041607 luatex.web v2298
>>> 
>>> $ context --version
>>> MTXrun | main context file: 
>>> /home/mbana/context.distro/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex 
>>> MTXrun | current version: 2009.04.18 13:47
>> 
>> Add this somewhere (old code, not tested with latest beta)
>> 
>> \def\dodohandlestructureheadnop[#1][#2]%
>>   {\dowithpargument{\dododohandlestructureheadnop[#1][#2]}}
>> 
>> \def\dododohandlestructureheadnop[#1][#2]#3%
>>   {\setfalse\currentstructureown
>>    \dohandlestructurehead{#1}{\c!reference=#2,\c!title={#3}}{}} % name ref 
>> nr title --
>> 
>> 
>> Aditya
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Re: \section and luatex

[Hans Hagen]

Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Apr 2009, Mohamed Bana wrote:
> 
>> Hi Aditya,
>>
>> Any chance of getting Hans to include that again.
> 
> Ask Hans :) I like the "loose" style of not having to put the braces, 
> but it is not really a show stopper for me.
> 
> I am happy with local changes or simply changing my input.

so that makes you teh one who will maintain m-mkii.mkiv -)


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