From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/50775 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aditya Mahajan Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 14:26:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: References: <4c1f1f860905241017s40033f7crde553d358a24b57f@mail.gmail.com> <4c1f1f860905250930g2e44f973y335be816c2883981@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1243276050 6278 80.91.229.12 (25 May 2009 18:27:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 18:27:30 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon May 25 20:27:23 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M8etN-0001E8-2j for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 May 2009 20:27:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A599F1FE01; Mon, 25 May 2009 20:27:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11134-05-3; Mon, 25 May 2009 20:26:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637851FD37; Mon, 25 May 2009 20:26:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9585D1FD1D for ; Mon, 25 May 2009 20:26:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15413-01-2 for ; Mon, 25 May 2009 20:26:24 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter3-til.mf.surf.net (filter3-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.219]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF6E1FDE2 for ; Mon, 25 May 2009 20:26:24 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.93.161]) by filter3-til.mf.surf.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4PIQM7d023529 for ; Mon, 25 May 2009 20:26:23 +0200 Original-Received: FROM DU160.N101.QueensU.CA (DU160.N101.QueensU.CA [130.15.101.160]) By tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4A1AE2CD.AB56.4644 ; Authuser adityam; 25 May 2009 14:26:21 EDT In-Reply-To: <4c1f1f860905250930g2e44f973y335be816c2883981@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LNX 1167 2008-08-23) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=141.211.93.161; country=US; region=MI; city=Ann Arbor; postalcode=48109; latitude=42.2923; longitude=-83.7145; metrocode=505; areacode=734; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=42.2923,-83.7145&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 231454684 - 4d71a68c546e - 20090525 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.219 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:50775 Archived-At: On Mon, 25 May 2009, John Haltiwanger wrote: > unlike document classes), there are no pre-rolled environments available. I > am thinking here of standardized thesis environments for universities, or a There are no standardized thesis styles for universities mainly because there are no consistent specs. Most univs want you to use times, double spaced lines, wide margins, and some formatting guidelines regarding the chapter headings, table of content, page headers and footers. Setting these are easy in ConTeXt (and also LaTeX if you know the relevant packages). Universities do not provide an official thesis style (either in LaTeX or ConTeXt) because in most cases they do not have the resources to maintain them. Students figure something out, and then pass along their styles to the next generation. If the formatting guidelines change, the burden is on the students to correct the style, rather than on the university. When I was writing my thesis, it took me about a few hours to understand the formatting guidelines, which were a jigjaw puzzle. Statements like: Always use Times New Roman at 12pt as the main font. ... two pages down ... The abstract can be in 10pt or 12pt ... a few pages later, use any of the standard fonts. It also used vague terminology. Statements like leave two blank lines after the title (blank lines, er... for what fontsize, the bodyfont or the title font?). ConTeXt makes it really easy to make the formatting changes. Once I understood the formatting guidelines, writing the main style was very easy (with a few trips to the manual, and a few questions here on the mailing list). Making sure that the resultant style looked visually appealing while not violating the formatting guidelines too a lot of experimentation. As Hans said, you can think of ConTeXt as the "standard" thesis style. Setup a few commands, and you meet your formatting requirements. Write it in an environment or a module, and you can reuse it. 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