From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/52032 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aditya Mahajan Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: I can't change startitemize[n]--> startitemize[1] Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:52:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: References: <4A685239.1090601@telefonica.net> <99771342-5FD0-4A61-97F8-E49B383CD6EE@gmail.com> <4A686E0D.7000505@wxs.nl> <4A6874AB.2000301@telefonica.net> <4A6875B3.6090200@wxs.nl> <3771A7EB-58A6-4A0A-8AA2-C733BC889781@gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1248364467 32684 80.91.229.12 (23 Jul 2009 15:54:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:54:27 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jul 23 17:54:20 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MU0cc-0005wr-Fy for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:54:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF8A1FBD5; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:54:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13320-02; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:53:31 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D301FB8C; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:53:31 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9308A1FB8C for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:53:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12419-02 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:53:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter3-til.mf.surf.net (filter3-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.219]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243C61FB5B for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:53:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from hellskitchen.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.14.82]) by filter3-til.mf.surf.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n6NFrJtk009198 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:53:20 +0200 Original-Received: FROM dhcp128036155065.central.yale.edu (dhcp128036155065.central.yale.edu [128.36.155.65]) By hellskitchen.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4A68876E.5B674.19096 ; Authuser adityam; 23 Jul 2009 11:53:18 EDT In-Reply-To: <3771A7EB-58A6-4A0A-8AA2-C733BC889781@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LNX 1167 2008-08-23) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=141.211.14.82; country=US; region=MI; city=Ann Arbor; postalcode=48109; latitude=42.2923; longitude=-83.7145; metrocode=505; areacode=734; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=42.2923,-83.7145&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 265052476 - 45b97f31a50b - 20090723 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.219 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:52032 Archived-At: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > > Am 23.07.2009 um 17:05 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: > >> I think an easier thing to do will be to follow latex's style of >> \newcommand and \renewcommand. That is, all \definecommands should check if >> the macro is previously defined or not. If it is defined, issue a warning >> or an error. > > There is \define and \redefine. I know. What I am asking is that the core macros like \definedescription, \defineitemgroups, \definehead, which have the general form \def\defineSOMETHING% {\dodoubleargument\dodefineSOMETHING} \def\dodefineSOMETHING[#1][#2]% {\setvalue{#1}{\dododefineSOMETHING[#2]} should do some check before the \setvalue. Maybe a universal solution will be to change \setvalue so that it uses \define (or a check like define) internally. >> And maybe have some hook to disable the warning/error for those who know >> what they are doing. > > In this case you can use \def, \edef ... I meant with commands like \defineSOMETHING above. For example, I once did \definecolor[page][s=0.9] instead of what I normally do: \definecolor[pagecolor][s=0.9]. Took a while to figure out what was going wrong. Some of Xan's error were due to similar things, \defineSOMETHING[note], \defineSOMETHING[symbol], etc. If all these commands issued a warning that you are redefining existing macro, debugging will be much easier. And if you know what you are doing, we could have \redefinecolor[page][s=0.9] that does not issue a warning. Or the easier to implemnet: \setupcolors[check=error|warn|ignore] for all \setupSOMETHING commands where the equivalent \defineSOMETHING defines a control sequence. Aditya ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________