From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/52677 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aditya Mahajan Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: long quotation without quotation marks Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 16:15:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323328-2102936857-1252095338=:25358" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1252095371 19358 80.91.229.12 (4 Sep 2009 20:16:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 20:16:11 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Sep 04 22:16:04 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MjfCW-00030N-2f for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:16:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E785C9AB7; Fri, 4 Sep 2009 22:16:03 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id N9hbd328F4Lw; Fri, 4 Sep 2009 22:16:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD85C9A9C; Fri, 4 Sep 2009 22:16:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5CBC9A9C for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2009 22:15:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id pPan3VSlxbkS for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2009 22:15:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.14.81]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FACEC9A9B for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2009 22:15:51 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: FROM dhcp128036206153.central.yale.edu (dhcp128036206153.central.yale.edu [128.36.206.153]) By hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4AA17576.81FB2.5477 ; Authuser adityam; 4 Sep 2009 16:15:50 EDT In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LNX 1167 2008-08-23) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:52677 Archived-At: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323328-2102936857-1252095338=:25358 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Robert Blackstone wrote: > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009, Aditya Mahajan wrote > >> >> On Thu, 3 Sep 2009, Robert Blackstone wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> In a text with some fairly long quotations I want to have these >> quotations >>> without their quotation marks, not indented and set in small type. >> >> >> To make context ignore indenting of a signle paragraph, use >> \noindentation. >> >> delimited text does not offer control of indentation inside the >> environment, but offers sufficient hooks to enable manipulation of >> indentations. >> >> If you want paragraphs inside the quotation to be indented use the >> following (if not, replace noindentation with noindenting) >> >> \definedelimitedtext[LongQuote] >> [style=3D{\switchtobodyfont[9pt]}, >> spacebefore=3Dmedium, >> before=3D\noindentation, % also \noindenting, >> ] >> >> \setupindenting[big,yes] >> >> \starttext >> >> \input ward >> >> \startLongQuote >> \input knuth \par >> \stopLongQuote >> >> \input ward >> >> \stoptext >> >> >> Aditya >> >> Thank you Aditya, it helped. It was: before=3D\noindenting that did what= I > wanted. > > Surprisingly for me, in the example you gave, before=3D\noindentation res= ulted > in no indentation for the first paragraph but the two others were indente= d. > With before=3D\noindenting all three paragrapghs were unindented. I reall= y > couldn=92t have guessed this. I agree. The naming of the macros isn't the best in this case. The same=20 result could have been achieved by \setupindenting[no] which is slightly easier to understand. > With some slight changes your example did almost exactly what I had in mi= nd. > (Almost, since in a text like this I would prefer some space between the > paragraphs and I understand that it cannot be adjusted locally.) I wasn't sure whether you wanted all paragraphs to be not be indented or=20 not, so gave both options. > I have two related questions for the list: > a. Would it be useful to add this information to the ConTeXt wiki page on > Quotes? Please do add it to the wiki. Searching the wiki is easier than searching= =20 the mailing list. > b. Is there a complete and up to date list of commands for ConTeXt, and w= hat > they are supposed to do, to be found somewhere? No. The manuals contain most of the information, but they are not=20 complete. The only *complete* source of information is the source code=20 (which is well documented). But, once you get the hang of ConTeXt's naming= =20 conventions, you can almost guess what the right key combination should=20 be. > (I find things like the > existence of \noindent, \noindenting and \noindentation, all apparently > giving slightly different results, nice for the variety it offers but, fo= r a > beginner, quite confusing as well.) See http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb29-2/tb92mahajan.pdf Aditya --8323328-2102936857-1252095338=:25358 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ --8323328-2102936857-1252095338=:25358--