xits font in ~/.fonts

xits font in ~/.fonts

[Aditya Mahajan]

Hi,

I cannot use xits fonts if they are placed in $HOME/.fonts.

For example, if I use

\setupbodyfont[xits]

I get a series of messages

define fonts    > forced type otf of xits-regular not found
define fonts    > font with name xits-regular is not found
define fonts    > unknown font xits-regular, loading aborted
define fonts    > unable to define xits-regular.otf as \*xits11ptrmtfc*


I also tried to use the fonts with simplefonts.

\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[XITS]
\setmathfont[XITS Math]

falls back to LM math while

\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[XITS]
\setmathfont[XITS]

gives XITS-Regular as the math font (and not XITS-Math).

Other fonts in $HOME/.fonts, in particular cambria, work with both 
methods.

\setupbodyfont[cambria]

and

\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[Cambria]
\setmathfont[Cambria]

both work.

Here is the output of

  mtxrun --script font --list "cambria*" --all

cambria             cambriabold 
/home/adityam/.fonts/microsoft/cambriab.ttf
cambriabold         cambriabold 
/home/adityam/.fonts/microsoft/cambriab.ttf
cambriabolditalic   cambriabolditalic 
/home/adityam/.fonts/microsoft/cambriaz.ttf
cambriaitalic       cambriaitalic 
/home/adityam/.fonts/microsoft/cambriai.ttf
cambriamath         cambriamath 
/home/adityam/.fonts/microsoft/cambria.ttc    index:  0
cambriamathnormal   cambriamath 
/home/adityam/.fonts/microsoft/cambria.ttc    index:  0
cambrianormal       cambriaitalic 
/home/adityam/.fonts/microsoft/cambriai.ttf

and

mtxrun --script font --list "xits*" --all

brushscriptxitalic           brushscriptxitalic 
BrushScriptX-Italic.afm
venturissansadfexitalic      venturissansadfexitalic 
VenturisSansADFEx-Italic.otf
venturissansadfno2exitalic   venturissansadfno2exitalic 
VenturisSansADFNo2Ex-Italic.otf
xits                         xits 
/home/adityam/.fonts/xits-math/xits-regular.otf
xitsbold                     xitsbold 
/home/adityam/.fonts/xits-math/xits-bold.otf
xitsbolditalic               xitsbolditalic 
/home/adityam/.fonts/xits-math/xits-bolditalic.otf
xitsitalic                   xitsitalic 
/home/adityam/.fonts/xits-math/xits-italic.otf
xitsmath                     xitsmath 
/home/adityam/.fonts/xits-math/xits-math.otf
xitsmathnormal               xitsmath 
/home/adityam/.fonts/xits-math/xits-math.otf
xitsmathregular              xitsmath 
/home/adityam/.fonts/xits-math/xits-math.otf
xitsnormal                   xitsitalic 
/home/adityam/.fonts/xits-math/xits-italic.otf
xitsregular                  xits 
/home/adityam/.fonts/xits-math/xits-regular.otf

Any idea what is going on. If I move the fonts inside $TEXMF everything 
works.

Aditya
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Re: xits font in ~/.fonts

[Khaled Hosny]

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:44:40PM -0400, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I cannot use xits fonts if they are placed in $HOME/.fonts.
> 
> For example, if I use
> 
> \setupbodyfont[xits]
> 
> I get a series of messages
> 
> define fonts    > forced type otf of xits-regular not found
> define fonts    > font with name xits-regular is not found
> define fonts    > unknown font xits-regular, loading aborted
> define fonts    > unable to define xits-regular.otf as \*xits11ptrmtfc*

The typescript uses file names, however ConTeXt can not load system
fonts by filename. Hans, I think it would be nice to be able to load
fonts by either font name or file name regardless of where they reside
(I'm not sure how easy is that, though, with luaotfload and kpse setting
OSFONTDIR is all what I need, since kpathsea appends it to its font
searching paths).
> 
> 
> I also tried to use the fonts with simplefonts.
> 
> \usemodule[simplefonts]
> \setmainfont[XITS]
> \setmathfont[XITS Math]
> 
> falls back to LM math while

AFAIK, simple fonts don't support math fonts beyond the pre-defined
typescripts.
 
[...]

> Other fonts in $HOME/.fonts, in particular cambria, work with both
> methods.
> 
> \setupbodyfont[cambria]

Because the typescript references font names.

> and
> 
> \usemodule[simplefonts]
> \setmainfont[Cambria]
> \setmathfont[Cambria]
> 
> both work.

Because there already a working typescript?

Regards,
 Khaled

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Re: xits font in ~/.fonts

[Hans Hagen]

On 17-8-2010 3:00, Khaled Hosny wrote:

> The typescript uses file names, however ConTeXt can not load system
> fonts by filename. Hans, I think it would be nice to be able to load
> fonts by either font name or file name regardless of where they reside
> (I'm not sure how easy is that, though, with luaotfload and kpse setting
> OSFONTDIR is all what I need, since kpathsea appends it to its font
> searching paths).

\starttext

\definedfont[vera at 50pt] test
\definedfont[file:vera.ttf at 100pt] test

\stoptext

works quite ok on my machine and the log reports:

<c:/windows/fonts/vera.ttf>

so it must be something in the typescripts .. maybe the old names?


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Re: xits font in ~/.fonts

[Khaled Hosny]

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 03:08:23PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 17-8-2010 3:00, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> 
> >The typescript uses file names, however ConTeXt can not load system
> >fonts by filename. Hans, I think it would be nice to be able to load
> >fonts by either font name or file name regardless of where they reside
> >(I'm not sure how easy is that, though, with luaotfload and kpse setting
> >OSFONTDIR is all what I need, since kpathsea appends it to its font
> >searching paths).
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \definedfont[vera at 50pt] test
> \definedfont[file:vera.ttf at 100pt] test
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> works quite ok on my machine and the log reports:
> 
> <c:/windows/fonts/vera.ttf>
> 
> so it must be something in the typescripts .. maybe the old names?

This works for me, but not with .otf fonts.

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Re: xits font in ~/.fonts

[Hans Hagen]

On 17-8-2010 4:53, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 03:08:23PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 17-8-2010 3:00, Khaled Hosny wrote:
>>
>>> The typescript uses file names, however ConTeXt can not load system
>>> fonts by filename. Hans, I think it would be nice to be able to load
>>> fonts by either font name or file name regardless of where they reside
>>> (I'm not sure how easy is that, though, with luaotfload and kpse setting
>>> OSFONTDIR is all what I need, since kpathsea appends it to its font
>>> searching paths).
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \definedfont[vera at 50pt] test
>> \definedfont[file:vera.ttf at 100pt] test
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>> works quite ok on my machine and the log reports:
>>
>> <c:/windows/fonts/vera.ttf>
>>
>> so it must be something in the typescripts .. maybe the old names?
>
> This works for me, but not with .otf fonts.

\starttext

\definedfont[file:STIXGeneral at 100pt] test

\stoptext

<c:/windows/fonts/STIXGeneral.otf>

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Re: xits font in ~/.fonts

[Khaled Hosny]

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 05:26:19PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 17-8-2010 4:53, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> >On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 03:08:23PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >>On 17-8-2010 3:00, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> >>
> >>>The typescript uses file names, however ConTeXt can not load system
> >>>fonts by filename. Hans, I think it would be nice to be able to load
> >>>fonts by either font name or file name regardless of where they reside
> >>>(I'm not sure how easy is that, though, with luaotfload and kpse setting
> >>>OSFONTDIR is all what I need, since kpathsea appends it to its font
> >>>searching paths).
> >>
> >>\starttext
> >>
> >>\definedfont[vera at 50pt] test
> >>\definedfont[file:vera.ttf at 100pt] test
> >>
> >>\stoptext
> >>
> >>works quite ok on my machine and the log reports:
> >>
> >><c:/windows/fonts/vera.ttf>
> >>
> >>so it must be something in the typescripts .. maybe the old names?
> >
> >This works for me, but not with .otf fonts.
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \definedfont[file:STIXGeneral at 100pt] test
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> <c:/windows/fonts/STIXGeneral.otf>

I'm getting unpredictable results here, some fonts are found and some
are not, but I can't identify a pattern, I thought it is related to
symbolic links but could not prove it (replacing symlinks by a copy, and
updating the databases but still the font is not found by file name).

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Re: xits font in ~/.fonts

[Hans Hagen]

On 17-8-2010 6:01, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 05:26:19PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 17-8-2010 4:53, Khaled Hosny wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 03:08:23PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>>> On 17-8-2010 3:00, Khaled Hosny wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The typescript uses file names, however ConTeXt can not load system
>>>>> fonts by filename. Hans, I think it would be nice to be able to load
>>>>> fonts by either font name or file name regardless of where they reside
>>>>> (I'm not sure how easy is that, though, with luaotfload and kpse setting
>>>>> OSFONTDIR is all what I need, since kpathsea appends it to its font
>>>>> searching paths).
>>>>
>>>> \starttext
>>>>
>>>> \definedfont[vera at 50pt] test
>>>> \definedfont[file:vera.ttf at 100pt] test
>>>>
>>>> \stoptext
>>>>
>>>> works quite ok on my machine and the log reports:
>>>>
>>>> <c:/windows/fonts/vera.ttf>
>>>>
>>>> so it must be something in the typescripts .. maybe the old names?
>>>
>>> This works for me, but not with .otf fonts.
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \definedfont[file:STIXGeneral at 100pt] test
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>> <c:/windows/fonts/STIXGeneral.otf>
>
> I'm getting unpredictable results here, some fonts are found and some
> are not, but I can't identify a pattern, I thought it is related to
> symbolic links but could not prove it (replacing symlinks by a copy, and
> updating the databases but still the font is not found by file name).

files in OSFONTDIR normally are located runtime (no database) .. depends 
a bit on the configuration

Hans

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Re: xits font in ~/.fonts

[Michael Murphy]

I also had problems at first with the XITS fonts, especially with the 
built-in typescripts.

First, make sure that you have put the fonts somewhere ConTeXt can find 
them, and run

mtxrun --script font --reload

You can check that they have installed properly by running

mtxrun --script font --list --all --pattern=xits*

and you should see a list of the fonts. Then, copy the typescript from 
the XITS font zip file which you can get from Khaled's website. Put this 
in the root directory of your .tex file (or in a suitable place in the 
ConTeXt tree) and load it in your preamble with

\usetypescriptfile[type-xits]

I then loaded the font with

\usetypescript[xits]
\setupbodyfont[xits]

You might get conflict with the internal typescipt (although I didn't, 
if I remember correctly); if so, rename [xits] in the typescript to 
[my-xits], then do

\usetypescript[my-xits]
\setupbodyfont[my-xits]

On 17/08/2010 18:04, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 17-8-2010 6:01, Khaled Hosny wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 05:26:19PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>> On 17-8-2010 4:53, Khaled Hosny wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 03:08:23PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>>>> On 17-8-2010 3:00, Khaled Hosny wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The typescript uses file names, however ConTeXt can not load system
>>>>>> fonts by filename. Hans, I think it would be nice to be able to load
>>>>>> fonts by either font name or file name regardless of where they
>>>>>> reside
>>>>>> (I'm not sure how easy is that, though, with luaotfload and kpse
>>>>>> setting
>>>>>> OSFONTDIR is all what I need, since kpathsea appends it to its font
>>>>>> searching paths).
>>>>>
>>>>> \starttext
>>>>>
>>>>> \definedfont[vera at 50pt] test
>>>>> \definedfont[file:vera.ttf at 100pt] test
>>>>>
>>>>> \stoptext
>>>>>
>>>>> works quite ok on my machine and the log reports:
>>>>>
>>>>> <c:/windows/fonts/vera.ttf>
>>>>>
>>>>> so it must be something in the typescripts .. maybe the old names?
>>>>
>>>> This works for me, but not with .otf fonts.
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>>
>>> \definedfont[file:STIXGeneral at 100pt] test
>>>
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> <c:/windows/fonts/STIXGeneral.otf>
>>
>> I'm getting unpredictable results here, some fonts are found and some
>> are not, but I can't identify a pattern, I thought it is related to
>> symbolic links but could not prove it (replacing symlinks by a copy, and
>> updating the databases but still the font is not found by file name).
>
> files in OSFONTDIR normally are located runtime (no database) .. depends
> a bit on the configuration
>
> Hans
>
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Re: xits font in ~/.fonts

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, Hans Hagen wrote:

> \starttext
>
> \definedfont[file:STIXGeneral at 100pt] test
>
> \stoptext
>
> <c:/windows/fonts/STIXGeneral.otf>

(I don't have stix fonts so testing with xtis)

\starttext
\definedfont[file:xits-regular.otf at 100pt] test
\stoptext

gives

define fonts    > forced type otf of xits-regular not found
define fonts    > font with name xits-regular is not found
define fonts    > unknown font xits-regular, loading aborted
define fonts    > unable to define xits-regular.otf as \**thedefinedfont**

(which is consistent with the previous error message). The error message 
says "font with ***name*** xits-regular is not found". Not sure if name 
means font name or file name.

As Khalid said,

\starttext
\definedfont[name:XITS at 100pt] test
\stoptext

works as expected.

mtxrun --script font --list can find xits-regular but luatools --locate 
cannot. I don't think that should matter.

Some diagnostic information:

* The result of

$mtxrun --script font --list --all | grep xits-regular

xits  xits /home/adityam/.fonts/xits-math/xits-regular.otf

(No fontname, instead the font location is given).

* The result of

$mtxrun --script font --list --file --pattern=xits-regular.otf

xits   normal   normal   normal   normal   xits 
/home/adityam/.fonts/xits-math/xits-regular.otf      conflict: regular

(What does the conflict: regular flag mean)

* Custom setuptex file

TEXMFOS=/opt/context-minimals/texmf-linux
export TEXMFOS

TEXMFCACHE=$HOME/texmf-cache
export TEXMFCACHE

unset TEXINPUTS MPINPUTS MFINPUTS

PATH=$TEXMFOS/bin:$PATH
export PATH

OSFONTDIR="$HOME/.fonts;/usr/share/fonts;"
export OSFONTDIR

(No other customizations of the environments).

I have no idea what is going on here. Can it be a linux vs windows things? 
Can someone else on linux (with xits fonts in OSFFONTDIR) test the above 
examples?

Hans, is there some tracing that I can enable to see how the fonts are 
being searched?

Aditya
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Re: xits font in ~/.fonts

[Khaled Hosny]

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 06:04:47PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 17-8-2010 6:01, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> >On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 05:26:19PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >>On 17-8-2010 4:53, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> >>>On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 03:08:23PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >>>>On 17-8-2010 3:00, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>The typescript uses file names, however ConTeXt can not load system
> >>>>>fonts by filename. Hans, I think it would be nice to be able to load
> >>>>>fonts by either font name or file name regardless of where they reside
> >>>>>(I'm not sure how easy is that, though, with luaotfload and kpse setting
> >>>>>OSFONTDIR is all what I need, since kpathsea appends it to its font
> >>>>>searching paths).
> >>>>
> >>>>\starttext
> >>>>
> >>>>\definedfont[vera at 50pt] test
> >>>>\definedfont[file:vera.ttf at 100pt] test
> >>>>
> >>>>\stoptext
> >>>>
> >>>>works quite ok on my machine and the log reports:
> >>>>
> >>>><c:/windows/fonts/vera.ttf>
> >>>>
> >>>>so it must be something in the typescripts .. maybe the old names?
> >>>
> >>>This works for me, but not with .otf fonts.
> >>
> >>\starttext
> >>
> >>\definedfont[file:STIXGeneral at 100pt] test
> >>
> >>\stoptext
> >>
> >><c:/windows/fonts/STIXGeneral.otf>
> >
> >I'm getting unpredictable results here, some fonts are found and some
> >are not, but I can't identify a pattern, I thought it is related to
> >symbolic links but could not prove it (replacing symlinks by a copy, and
> >updating the databases but still the font is not found by file name).
> 
> files in OSFONTDIR normally are located runtime (no database) ..
> depends a bit on the configuration

Dunno then, it is very confusing, some fonts are found by file name and
some are not. Putting them in TEXMF tree makes them found.

Regards,
 Khaled

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Re: xits font in ~/.fonts

[Taco Hoekwater]

Khaled Hosny wrote:
> 
> Dunno then, it is very confusing, some fonts are found by file name and
> some are not. Putting them in TEXMF tree makes them found.

Wild guess: could it be related to the dot in ".fonts" ?


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Re: xits font in ~/.fonts

[Martin Althoff]

Khaled,

a while ago I was getting strange results: wanted to use roman font got bold italic, etc. Font listing roman name and italic filename, all with several fonts.

I just deleted the font cache folder.... Did the trick for the time being.

./tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/<hexnumber>

> Dunno then, it is very confusing, some fonts are found by
> file name and
> some are not. Putting them in TEXMF tree makes them found.
> 
> Regards,
>  Khaled




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Re: xits font in ~/.fonts

[Khaled Hosny]

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 01:01:13PM +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
> 
> Khaled Hosny wrote:
> > 
> > Dunno then, it is very confusing, some fonts are found by file name and
> > some are not. Putting them in TEXMF tree makes them found.
> 
> Wild guess: could it be related to the dot in ".fonts" ?

Other fonts in that directory are found, font names works for all fonts
there too.

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Re: xits font in ~/.fonts

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Aug 18, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 01:01:13PM +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Khaled Hosny wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dunno then, it is very confusing, some fonts are found by file name and
>>> some are not. Putting them in TEXMF tree makes them found.
>> 
>> Wild guess: could it be related to the dot in ".fonts" ?
> 
> Other fonts in that directory are found, font names works for all fonts
> there too.
> 

May I chime in here? Hans, a couple of weeks ago, I reported a similar problem: none of the fonts in my personal texmf-trees ends up in the database. I can still reproduce the problem:

luatools AGaramondPro-Regular.otf
/Users/tas/texmf/fonts/opentype/adobe/agaramond/AGaramondPro-Regular.otf

mtxrun --script fonts --list --all "agaramond*"

(i.e. nothing found). I can only use all these personal fonts via the file: syntax; name: does not work. Maybe these problems are related? Something's not quite kosher in the font database...

Thomas

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Re: xits font in ~/.fonts

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Wed, 18 Aug 2010, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

>
> On Aug 18, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 01:01:13PM +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Khaled Hosny wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dunno then, it is very confusing, some fonts are found by file name and
>>>> some are not. Putting them in TEXMF tree makes them found.
>>>
>>> Wild guess: could it be related to the dot in ".fonts" ?
>>
>> Other fonts in that directory are found, font names works for all fonts
>> there too.
>>
>
> May I chime in here? Hans, a couple of weeks ago, I reported a similar problem: none of the fonts in my personal texmf-trees ends up in the database. I can still reproduce the problem:
>
> luatools AGaramondPro-Regular.otf
> /Users/tas/texmf/fonts/opentype/adobe/agaramond/AGaramondPro-Regular.otf
>
> mtxrun --script fonts --list --all "agaramond*"
>
> (i.e. nothing found). I can only use all these personal fonts via the file: syntax; name: does not work. Maybe these problems are related? Something's not quite kosher in the font database...

I had also noticed a similar behavior in the past with Fontin... the font 
was not found in $TEXMFHOME tree. That was one of the reasons that I 
started storing fonts in ~/.fonts (the other being that other applications 
on Linux can also find the font).

I will try to see if I can reproduce that with the latest beta.

Aditya
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Re: xits font in ~/.fonts

[Hans Hagen]

On 18-8-2010 10:07, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

> I had also noticed a similar behavior in the past with Fontin... the
> font was not found in $TEXMFHOME tree. That was one of the reasons that
> I started storing fonts in ~/.fonts (the other being that other
> applications on Linux can also find the font).

taco and I tested texmfhome some time ago and it worked on our machines 
so we need more input on where it fails

Hans


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Re: xits font in ~/.fonts

[Hans Hagen]

On 18-8-2010 9:03, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
> On Aug 18, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 01:01:13PM +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Khaled Hosny wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dunno then, it is very confusing, some fonts are found by file name and
>>>> some are not. Putting them in TEXMF tree makes them found.
>>>
>>> Wild guess: could it be related to the dot in ".fonts" ?
>>
>> Other fonts in that directory are found, font names works for all fonts
>> there too.
>>
>
> May I chime in here? Hans, a couple of weeks ago, I reported a similar problem: none of the fonts in my personal texmf-trees ends up in the database. I can still reproduce the problem:
>
> luatools AGaramondPro-Regular.otf
> /Users/tas/texmf/fonts/opentype/adobe/agaramond/AGaramondPro-Regular.otf
>
> mtxrun --script fonts --list --all "agaramond*"
>
> (i.e. nothing found). I can only use all these personal fonts via the file: syntax; name: does not work. Maybe these problems are related? Something's not quite kosher in the font database...

ah, this could be because a runtime scanned tree is not scanned for 
fonts in the database; this is somewhat disputable as such a tree is not 
expected to be stable i.e. files can come and go

i can look into it but now now (no time now) and only if there is no 
performance penalty

it's why I would always make a local tree 'databased'

Hans


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Re: xits font in ~/.fonts

[Hans Hagen]

On 18-8-2010 9:03, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

> (i.e. nothing found). I can only use all these personal fonts via the file: syntax; name: does not work. Maybe these problems are related? Something's not quite kosher in the font database...

btw, I put my personal fonts in texmf-fonts anyway -)

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Re: xits font in ~/.fonts

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 18-8-2010 9:03, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
>>  (i.e. nothing found). I can only use all these personal fonts via the
>>  file: syntax; name: does not work. Maybe these problems are related?
>>  Something's not quite kosher in the font database...
>
> btw, I put my personal fonts in texmf-fonts anyway -)

But then you don't use any application other than ConTeXt, do you? :-)

Anyways, for now I have added a simlink from ~/.fonts to 
~/texmf/fonts/opentype/data and everything seems to work.

Aditya
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Re: xits font in ~/.fonts

[Hans Hagen]

On 19-8-2010 12:48, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

> But then you don't use any application other than ConTeXt, do you? :-)

I do, but I seldom bother about fonts in other applications.

> Anyways, for now I have added a simlink from ~/.fonts to
> ~/texmf/fonts/opentype/data and everything seems to work.

Also, when I use fonts in tex, I make sure that I have a copy in 
texmf-fonts as I don't want surprised when fonts change (I probably had 
too many bad experiences). Also, I don't want to enter a font mess when
moving to a new system.

Hans

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Re: xits font in ~/.fonts

[Khaled Hosny]

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 06:48:53PM -0400, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
> >On 18-8-2010 9:03, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> >
> >> (i.e. nothing found). I can only use all these personal fonts via the
> >> file: syntax; name: does not work. Maybe these problems are related?
> >> Something's not quite kosher in the font database...
> >
> >btw, I put my personal fonts in texmf-fonts anyway -)
> 
> But then you don't use any application other than ConTeXt, do you? :-)
> 
> Anyways, for now I have added a simlink from ~/.fonts to
> ~/texmf/fonts/opentype/data and everything seems to work.

That what I ended up doing while ago (actually, my master copy is on the
local git repository, and I've symlinks in ~/.fonts and ~/texmf).

Regards,
 Khaled

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