Re: indent lost after \placefigure

[Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu>]

On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

> On Thursday 11 February 2010 18:55:01 Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
>>> PS: Your opinion is not so humble, and I do not really see the rational
>>> why indentnext=no is the default for most things* rather than
>>> indentnext=auto.
>>
>> Below is my understanding of ConTeXt's design principle (Hans or Taco
>>  should correct me if I am wrong). Content should be separate from
>>  presentation. This means that indentation should be a function of
>>  semantics, and not of how you format your source. So
>>
>>      some text ...
>>      \startitemize
>>        \item
>>        \item
>>      \stopitemize
>>      some more text
>>
>> and
>>
>>      some text
>>
>>      \startitemize
>>         \item
>>         \item
>>      \stopitemize
>>
>>      some more text ...
>>
>> should give the same result. If you want an item group that does not start
>>  a paragraph, and an item group that starts a new paragraph, then they are
>>  two different objects and you should define two different environments for
>>  them.
>>
>>      \defineitemgroup[spitemize] %single para
>>                      [indentnext=no,
>>                       before=\blank,
>>                       after=\blank]
>>
>>     \defineitemgroup[mpitemize] %multi para
>>                     [indentnext=yes,
>>                      before={\blank[big]},
>>                      after={\blank[big]}]
>>
>>
>> Then you can use \startspitemize or \startmpitemize dependening on what you
>> want. The way you format the source does not matter.
>>
>> Aditya
>
> That is really "ugly": different cases of itemize...

Agreed. That is a matter of personal preference. you can always add 
indentnext=auto to \setupitemize (I always do that for formulas) or 
indentnext=yes|no to individual itemize.

> If indeed the design principle that you describe is true,

what I said was how I understand things, and I may be completely wrong 
here.

> then I would *strongly* argue that one should get rid of
> a blank line separating paragraphs and *require* the use of \par

AFAIU, tex does not differentiate between blank lines and \par 
(unless you change the catcode of eol).

> I don't totally agree with this, as I think that the document source
> should look as simple as possible, and paragraphs separated by blank
> lines do a lot to make the text readable, more so than

And I am suggesting that adding blank lines around ALL environments, 
without changing the output.

In any case, ConTeXt is flexible to allow you to use whichever style you 
prefer. It just defaults to one thing. You can have a 'autoindent' module 
that adds indent=auto to all \setup commands.

Aditya
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