* subfootnote
@ 2010-09-30 12:03 Steffen Wolfrum
2010-09-30 16:05 ` subfootnote Aditya Mahajan
2010-09-30 16:28 ` subfootnote Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2010-09-30 12:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
how do I change the numbering of subfootnote from eg. "2.1" to "2a"?
See minimal example, please:
\setupenumerations[subfootnote][conversion=a] % ?
\setupsubfootnotes[conversion=a] % ?
\starttext
test \footnote{xxxx} \subfootnote{xxxx}
text
test \startfootnote note \stopfootnote
test \startsubfootnote subnote \stopsubfootnote
text
\stoptext
Thanks,
Steffen
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* Re: subfootnote
2010-09-30 12:03 subfootnote Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2010-09-30 16:05 ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-09-30 16:28 ` subfootnote Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2010-09-30 16:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Untested, but the usual option is conversion=characters
Aditya
On Sep 30, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Steffen Wolfrum <context@st.estfiles.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> how do I change the numbering of subfootnote from eg. "2.1" to "2a"?
>
> See minimal example, please:
>
> \setupenumerations[subfootnote][conversion=a] % ?
> \setupsubfootnotes[conversion=a] % ?
>
> \starttext
> test \footnote{xxxx} \subfootnote{xxxx}
> text
> test \startfootnote note \stopfootnote
> test \startsubfootnote subnote \stopsubfootnote
> text
> \stoptext
>
>
> Thanks,
> Steffen
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* Re: subfootnote
2010-09-30 12:03 subfootnote Steffen Wolfrum
2010-09-30 16:05 ` subfootnote Aditya Mahajan
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2010-09-30 16:53 ` subfootnote Steffen Wolfrum
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-09-30 16:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 30.09.2010 um 14:03 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
> Hi,
>
> how do I change the numbering of subfootnote from eg. "2.1" to "2a"?
>
> See minimal example, please:
>
> \setupenumerations[subfootnote][conversion=a] % ?
> \setupsubfootnotes[conversion=a] % ?
numberconversion=...
Wolfgang
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* Re: subfootnote
2010-09-30 16:28 ` subfootnote Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2010-09-30 16:53 ` Steffen Wolfrum
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2010-10-05 12:41 ` subfootnote Alan BRASLAU
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2010-09-30 16:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 30.09.2010 um 18:28 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>
> Am 30.09.2010 um 14:03 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> how do I change the numbering of subfootnote from eg. "2.1" to "2a"?
>>
>> See minimal example, please:
>>
>> \setupenumerations[subfootnote][conversion=a] % ?
>> \setupsubfootnotes[conversion=a] % ?
>
> numberconversion=...
No, not yet.
Now the result is "1", "2" and "b.a" ... but it should be "2a"!!!!
Steffen
------- test file:
\setupenumerations[subfootnote][numberconversion=character]
\starttext
test \footnote{xxxx}
text
test \startfootnote note \stopfootnote
test \startsubfootnote subnote \stopsubfootnote
text
\stoptext
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* Re: subfootnote
2010-09-30 16:53 ` subfootnote Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2010-09-30 18:06 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-09-30 18:31 ` subfootnote Steffen Wolfrum
2010-10-05 12:41 ` subfootnote Alan BRASLAU
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-09-30 18:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Steffen Wolfrum; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Am 30.09.2010 um 18:53 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>
> Am 30.09.2010 um 18:28 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>
>>
>> Am 30.09.2010 um 14:03 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> how do I change the numbering of subfootnote from eg. "2.1" to "2a"?
>>>
>>> See minimal example, please:
>>>
>>> \setupenumerations[subfootnote][conversion=a] % ?
>>> \setupsubfootnotes[conversion=a] % ?
>>
>> numberconversion=...
>
> No, not yet.
>
> Now the result is "1", "2" and "b.a" ... but it should be "2a"!!!!
\definestructureconversionset[footnote][number,characters][numbers]
\setupenumerations[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote]
Wolfgang
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* Re: subfootnote
2010-09-30 18:06 ` subfootnote Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2010-09-30 18:31 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2010-09-30 18:42 ` subfootnote Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2010-09-30 18:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 30.09.2010 um 20:06 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>
> Am 30.09.2010 um 18:53 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>
>>
>> Am 30.09.2010 um 18:28 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>>
>>>
>>> Am 30.09.2010 um 14:03 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> how do I change the numbering of subfootnote from eg. "2.1" to "2a"?
>>>>
>>>> See minimal example, please:
>>>>
>>>> \setupenumerations[subfootnote][conversion=a] % ?
>>>> \setupsubfootnotes[conversion=a] % ?
>>>
>>> numberconversion=...
>>
>> No, not yet.
>>
>> Now the result is "1", "2" and "b.a" ... but it should be "2a"!!!!
>
> \definestructureconversionset[footnote][number,characters][numbers]
> \setupenumerations[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote]
Again, not yet!
Please run the test file: now we have "2.a" ... instead of "2a".
And setupenumerations[footnote] doesn't take a stopper!
So, how do I get rid of this "." inbetween??
Steffen
------- test file:
\definestructureconversionset[footnote][number,characters][numbers]
\setupenumerations[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote]
\starttext
test \footnote{xxxx}
text
test \startfootnote note \stopfootnote
test \startsubfootnote subnote \stopsubfootnote
text
\stoptext
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* Re: subfootnote
2010-09-30 18:31 ` subfootnote Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2010-09-30 18:42 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-09-30 18:57 ` subfootnote Steffen Wolfrum
2010-09-30 20:06 ` subfootnote Hans Hagen
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-09-30 18:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Steffen Wolfrum; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Hans Hagen
Am 30.09.2010 um 20:31 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>> \definestructureconversionset[footnote][number,characters][numbers]
>> \setupenumerations[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote]
>
> Again, not yet!
>
> Please run the test file: now we have "2.a" ... instead of "2a".
\definestructureseparatorset [footnote][][]
\definestructureconversionset[footnote][number,characters][numbers]
\setupenumerations[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote,numberseparatorset=footnote]
@Hans Can you make synonyms of the \define... commands without the “structure” in the name!
Wolfgang
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* Re: subfootnote
2010-09-30 18:42 ` subfootnote Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2010-09-30 18:57 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2010-09-30 20:07 ` subfootnote Hans Hagen
2010-09-30 20:06 ` subfootnote Hans Hagen
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2010-09-30 18:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 30.09.2010 um 20:42 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>
> Am 30.09.2010 um 20:31 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>
>>> \definestructureconversionset[footnote][number,characters][numbers]
>>> \setupenumerations[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote]
>>
>> Again, not yet!
>>
>> Please run the test file: now we have "2.a" ... instead of "2a".
>
> \definestructureseparatorset [footnote][][]
> \definestructureconversionset[footnote][number,characters][numbers]
> \setupenumerations[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote,numberseparatorset=footnote]
Wow, it's really needs a lot to change the outfit of one tiny subfoonote ;o)
> @Hans Can you make synonyms of the \define... commands without the “structure” in the name!
+1
I assumed that "\definestructurefoo" is always related to structure, meaning structure of document, sections ... not the formatting of footnotes.
Next time I know better: it's all about enumeration, it's all about structure today.
Thank you very much!
Steffen
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* Re: subfootnote
2010-09-30 18:42 ` subfootnote Wolfgang Schuster
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@ 2010-09-30 20:06 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-09-30 20:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Steffen Wolfrum
On 30-9-2010 8:42, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> Am 30.09.2010 um 20:31 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>
>>> \definestructureconversionset[footnote][number,characters][numbers]
>>> \setupenumerations[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote]
>>
>> Again, not yet!
>>
>> Please run the test file: now we have "2.a" ... instead of "2a".
>
> \definestructureseparatorset [footnote][][]
> \definestructureconversionset[footnote][number,characters][numbers]
> \setupenumerations[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote,numberseparatorset=footnote]
>
> @Hans Can you make synonyms of the \define... commands without the “structure” in the name!
yes ... later ... eventually 'structure' will go and be the synonyms
(compatinility)
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* Re: subfootnote
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-09-30 20:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 30-9-2010 8:57, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>
> Am 30.09.2010 um 20:42 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>
>>
>> Am 30.09.2010 um 20:31 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>>
>>>> \definestructureconversionset[footnote][number,characters][numbers]
>>>> \setupenumerations[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote]
>>>
>>> Again, not yet!
>>>
>>> Please run the test file: now we have "2.a" ... instead of "2a".
>>
>> \definestructureseparatorset [footnote][][]
>> \definestructureconversionset[footnote][number,characters][numbers]
>> \setupenumerations[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote,numberseparatorset=footnote]
>
>
> Wow, it's really needs a lot to change the outfit of one tiny subfoonote ;o)
that's the price that comes with flexibility ... better this than messy
definitions when you want more control
Hans
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* Re: subfootnote
2010-09-30 16:53 ` subfootnote Steffen Wolfrum
2010-09-30 18:06 ` subfootnote Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2010-10-05 12:41 ` Alan BRASLAU
2010-10-05 13:32 ` subfootnote Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2010-10-05 12:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context; +Cc: Steffen Wolfrum
On Thursday 30 September 2010 18:53:43 Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>
> ------- test file:
>
> \starttext
> test \footnote{xxxx}
> text
> test \startfootnote note \stopfootnote
> test \startsubfootnote subnote \stopsubfootnote
> text
> \stoptext
On Thursday 30 September 2010 20:42:39 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> \definestructureseparatorset [footnote][][]
> \definestructureconversionset[footnote][number,characters][numbers]
> \setupenumerations[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote,numberseparatorse
> t=footnote]
Nice to discover subfootnotes!
The above example illustrates a *spacing problem* after
\startfootnote \stopfootnote
(the spacing after the footnote enumerator differs from \footnote{xxxx})
Alan
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* Re: subfootnote
2010-10-05 12:41 ` subfootnote Alan BRASLAU
@ 2010-10-05 13:32 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-10-05 14:01 ` subfootnote Steffen Wolfrum
2010-10-12 9:48 ` \setupnote (was subfootnote) Alan BRASLAU
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-10-05 13:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 05.10.2010 um 14:41 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:
> On Thursday 30 September 2010 18:53:43 Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>>
>> ------- test file:
>>
>> \starttext
>> test \footnote{xxxx}
>> text
>> test \startfootnote note \stopfootnote
>> test \startsubfootnote subnote \stopsubfootnote
>> text
>> \stoptext
>
> On Thursday 30 September 2010 20:42:39 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>>
>> \definestructureseparatorset [footnote][][]
>> \definestructureconversionset[footnote][number,characters][numbers]
>> \setupenumerations[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote,numberseparatorset=footnote]
>
> Nice to discover subfootnotes!
>
> The above example illustrates a *spacing problem* after
> \startfootnote \stopfootnote
> (the spacing after the footnote enumerator differs from \footnote{xxxx})
The \stopfootnote gobbles the next space, to prevent this you can say in mkii \setupnote[footnote][next=\autoinsertnextspace] but the ”next” key is missing in mkiv.
Wolfgang
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* Re: subfootnote
2010-10-05 13:32 ` subfootnote Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2010-10-05 14:01 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2010-10-07 8:36 ` subfootnote Hans Hagen
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2010-10-05 14:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 05.10.2010 um 15:32 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>
> Am 05.10.2010 um 14:41 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:
>
>> On Thursday 30 September 2010 18:53:43 Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>>>
>>> ------- test file:
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>> test \footnote{xxxx}
>>> text
>>> test \startfootnote note \stopfootnote
>>> test \startsubfootnote subnote \stopsubfootnote
>>> text
>>> \stoptext
>>
>> On Thursday 30 September 2010 20:42:39 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>>>
>>> \definestructureseparatorset [footnote][][]
>>> \definestructureconversionset[footnote][number,characters][numbers]
>>> \setupenumerations[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote,numberseparatorset=footnote]
>>
>> Nice to discover subfootnotes!
>>
>> The above example illustrates a *spacing problem* after
>> \startfootnote \stopfootnote
>> (the spacing after the footnote enumerator differs from \footnote{xxxx})
>
> The \stopfootnote gobbles the next space, to prevent this you can say in mkii \setupnote[footnote][next=\autoinsertnextspace] but the ”next” key is missing in mkiv.
>
> Wolfgang
I can't switch it off!!!!
\definestructureseparatorset [footnote][][]
\definestructureconversionset[footnote][number,characters][numbers]
\setupenumerations[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote,numberseparatorset=footnote]
\setupfootnotes[way=bytext]% <- here is the problem!!
\starttext
test \footnote{xxxx}
text
test \startfootnote note \stopfootnote
test \startsubfootnote subnote \stopsubfootnote
test \startfootnote note \stopfootnote
\stoptext
Steffen
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* Re: subfootnote
2010-10-05 14:01 ` subfootnote Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2010-10-07 8:36 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-15 10:24 ` subfootnote Steffen Wolfrum
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-10-07 8:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Steffen Wolfrum
> \definestructureseparatorset [footnote][][]
> \definestructureconversionset[footnote][number,characters][numbers]
> \setupenumerations[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote,numberseparatorset=footnote]
>
> \setupfootnotes[way=bytext]%<- here is the problem!!
>
> \starttext
> test \footnote{xxxx}
> text
> test \startfootnote note \stopfootnote
> test \startsubfootnote subnote \stopsubfootnote
> test \startfootnote note \stopfootnote
> \stoptext
fixed in next beta
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* Re: \setupnote (was subfootnote)
2010-10-05 13:32 ` subfootnote Wolfgang Schuster
2010-10-05 14:01 ` subfootnote Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2010-10-12 9:48 ` Alan BRASLAU
2010-10-12 9:54 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2010-10-12 11:35 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2010-10-12 9:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On Tuesday 05 October 2010 15:32:27 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 05.10.2010 um 14:41 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:
> >
> > The above example illustrates a *spacing problem* after
> > \startfootnote \stopfootnote
> > (the spacing after the footnote enumerator differs from \footnote{xxxx})
>
> The \stopfootnote gobbles the next space, to prevent this you can say in
> mkii \setupnote[footnote][next=\autoinsertnextspace] but the ”next” key is
> missing in mkiv.
Indeed!
What to do?
Alan
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* Re: \setupnote (was subfootnote)
2010-10-12 9:48 ` \setupnote (was subfootnote) Alan BRASLAU
@ 2010-10-12 9:54 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2010-10-12 10:27 ` Alan BRASLAU
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2010-10-12 9:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 12.10.2010 um 11:48 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:
> On Tuesday 05 October 2010 15:32:27 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> Am 05.10.2010 um 14:41 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:
>>>
>>> The above example illustrates a *spacing problem* after
>>> \startfootnote \stopfootnote
>>> (the spacing after the footnote enumerator differs from \footnote{xxxx})
>>
>> The \stopfootnote gobbles the next space, to prevent this you can say in
>> mkii \setupnote[footnote][next=\autoinsertnextspace] but the ”next” key is
>> missing in mkiv.
>
> Indeed!
> What to do?
Hans recommended:
\stopfootnote{}
Steffen
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* Re: \setupnote (was subfootnote)
2010-10-12 9:54 ` Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2010-10-12 10:27 ` Alan BRASLAU
2010-10-12 10:39 ` luigi scarso
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2010-10-12 10:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context; +Cc: Steffen Wolfrum
On Tuesday 12 October 2010 11:54:28 Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>
> Hans recommended:
>
> \stopfootnote{}
>
Thank you.
This will work, but it is pretty ugly.%
\startfootnote
Hopefully Hans will fix this in mkiv.
\stopfootnote{}
In the meantime, we will just have to make do,
but the special syntax as seen here raises eyebrows
with my MS-Word bound collaborators.
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* Re: \setupnote (was subfootnote)
2010-10-12 10:27 ` Alan BRASLAU
@ 2010-10-12 10:39 ` luigi scarso
2010-10-12 11:09 ` Yury G. Kudryashov
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From: luigi scarso @ 2010-10-12 10:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Alan BRASLAU <alan.braslau@cea.fr> wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 October 2010 11:54:28 Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>>
>> Hans recommended:
>>
>> \stopfootnote{}
>>
>
> Thank you.
>
> This will work, but it is pretty ugly.%
> \startfootnote
> Hopefully Hans will fix this in mkiv.
> \stopfootnote{}
> In the meantime, we will just have to make do,
> but the special syntax as seen here raises eyebrows
> with my MS-Word bound collaborators.
Maybe for now
\let\StartFootnote\startfootnote
\def\StopFootnote{\stopfootnote{}}
and after fix
\let\StartFootnote\startfootnote
\let\StopFootnote\stopfootnote
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* Re: \setupnote (was subfootnote)
2010-10-12 10:39 ` luigi scarso
@ 2010-10-12 11:09 ` Yury G. Kudryashov
2010-10-12 11:32 ` luigi scarso
2010-10-14 9:03 ` luigi scarso
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From: Yury G. Kudryashov @ 2010-10-12 11:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
luigi scarso wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Alan BRASLAU <alan.braslau@cea.fr>
> wrote:
>> On Tuesday 12 October 2010 11:54:28 Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>>>
>>> Hans recommended:
>>>
>>> \stopfootnote{}
>>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> This will work, but it is pretty ugly.%
>> \startfootnote
>> Hopefully Hans will fix this in mkiv.
>> \stopfootnote{}
>> In the meantime, we will just have to make do,
>> but the special syntax as seen here raises eyebrows
>> with my MS-Word bound collaborators.
> Maybe for now
> \let\StartFootnote\startfootnote
> \def\StopFootnote{\stopfootnote{}}
> and after fix
> \let\StartFootnote\startfootnote
> \let\StopFootnote\stopfootnote
How would that help? \somecommand automatically gobbles the next space.
>
>
>
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* Re: \setupnote (was subfootnote)
2010-10-12 11:09 ` Yury G. Kudryashov
@ 2010-10-12 11:32 ` luigi scarso
2010-10-12 14:46 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: luigi scarso @ 2010-10-12 11:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Yury G. Kudryashov <urkud@ya.ru> wrote:
> luigi scarso wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Alan BRASLAU <alan.braslau@cea.fr>
>> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 12 October 2010 11:54:28 Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hans recommended:
>>>>
>>>> \stopfootnote{}
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> This will work, but it is pretty ugly.%
>>> \startfootnote
>>> Hopefully Hans will fix this in mkiv.
>>> \stopfootnote{}
>>> In the meantime, we will just have to make do,
>>> but the special syntax as seen here raises eyebrows
>>> with my MS-Word bound collaborators.
>> Maybe for now
>> \let\StartFootnote\startfootnote
>> \def\StopFootnote{\stopfootnote{}}
>> and after fix
>> \let\StartFootnote\startfootnote
>> \let\StopFootnote\stopfootnote
> How would that help? \somecommand automatically gobbles the next space.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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You are right, my apologies for the error.
I mean that in the meanwhile perhaps you can use somenthing like this
\long\def\StartFootnote#1\StopFootnote{\startfootnote#1\stopfootnote\space}
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* Re: \setupnote (was subfootnote)
2010-10-12 9:48 ` \setupnote (was subfootnote) Alan BRASLAU
2010-10-12 9:54 ` Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2010-10-12 11:35 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-10-12 14:51 ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-10-12 15:06 ` Alan BRASLAU
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-10-12 11:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alan BRASLAU; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Am 12.10.2010 um 11:48 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:
> On Tuesday 05 October 2010 15:32:27 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> Am 05.10.2010 um 14:41 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:
>>>
>>> The above example illustrates a *spacing problem* after
>>> \startfootnote \stopfootnote
>>> (the spacing after the footnote enumerator differs from \footnote{xxxx})
>>
>> The \stopfootnote gobbles the next space, to prevent this you can say in
>> mkii \setupnote[footnote][next=\autoinsertnextspace] but the ”next” key is
>> missing in mkiv.
>
> Indeed!
> What to do?
Patch strc-not.mkiv
\def\dodoredefinenotecommands#1#2#3%
{\unexpanded\expandafter\def\csname\e!start#3#1\expandafter\endcsname\expandafter
{\expandafter\dosingleempty\csname\s!do\e!start#3#1\endcsname}%
\unexpanded\expandafter\def\csname\s!do\e!start#3#1\expandafter\endcsname
\expandafter[\expandafter##\expandafter1\expandafter]\expandafter##\expandafter2\csname\e!stop#3#1\endcsname
{\begingroup
\doenumerationinit{#1}{#2}{#3}%
\@@notemakedescription[##1]{}{##2}%
\endgroup
\namednoteparameter{#1}\c!next}}
Example:
\starttext
One\startfootnote one\stopfootnote
Two\startfootnote two\stopfootnote
\setupnote[footnote][next=\autoinsertnextspace]
One\startfootnote one\stopfootnote
Two\startfootnote two\stopfootnote
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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* Re: \setupnote (was subfootnote)
2010-10-12 11:32 ` luigi scarso
@ 2010-10-12 14:46 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2010-10-12 14:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2010, luigi scarso wrote:
> You are right, my apologies for the error.
> I mean that in the meanwhile perhaps you can use somenthing like this
> \long\def\StartFootnote#1\StopFootnote{\startfootnote#1\stopfootnote\space}
Better use \autoinsertnextspace rather than \space. Or perhaps add
\autoinsertnextspace to \dodoredefinenotecommands. See the attached file.
Aditya
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\unprotect
\def\dodoredefinenotecommands#1#2#3%
{\unexpanded\expandafter\def\csname\e!start#3#1\expandafter\endcsname\expandafter
{\expandafter\dosingleempty\csname\s!do\e!start#3#1\endcsname}%
\unexpanded\expandafter\def\csname\s!do\e!start#3#1\expandafter\endcsname
\expandafter[\expandafter##\expandafter1\expandafter]\expandafter##\expandafter2\csname\e!stop#3#1\endcsname
{\begingroup
\doenumerationinit{#1}{#2}{#3}%
\@@notemakedescription[##1]{}{##2}%
\endgroup\autoinsertnextspace}}
\definenote [\v!footnote]
\protect
\starttext
let see if\startfootnote Footnote \stopfootnote the space goobled.
let see if
\startfootnote Footnote \stopfootnote
the space goobled.
\stoptext
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* Re: \setupnote (was subfootnote)
2010-10-12 11:35 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2010-10-12 14:51 ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-10-12 15:06 ` Alan BRASLAU
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2010-10-12 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> Am 12.10.2010 um 11:48 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:
>
>> On Tuesday 05 October 2010 15:32:27 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>>> Am 05.10.2010 um 14:41 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:
>>>>
>>>> The above example illustrates a *spacing problem* after
>>>> \startfootnote \stopfootnote
>>>> (the spacing after the footnote enumerator differs from \footnote{xxxx})
>>>
>>> The \stopfootnote gobbles the next space, to prevent this you can say in
>>> mkii \setupnote[footnote][next=\autoinsertnextspace] but the ”next” key is
>>> missing in mkiv.
>>
>> Indeed!
>> What to do?
>
> Patch strc-not.mkiv
Did not see this before I posted my reply. Of course, using a proper key
is better than explicitly add \autoinsertnextspace in the definition.
Aditya
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* Re: \setupnote (was subfootnote)
2010-10-12 11:35 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-10-12 14:51 ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2010-10-12 15:06 ` Alan BRASLAU
2010-10-12 15:18 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2010-10-12 15:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Wolfgang Schuster; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Tuesday 12 October 2010 13:35:19 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> Patch strc-not.mkiv
>
> \def\dodoredefinenotecommands#1#2#3%
>
> {\unexpanded\expandafter\def\csname\e!start#3#1\expandafter\endcsname\expa
> ndafter {\expandafter\dosingleempty\csname\s!do\e!start#3#1\endcsname}%
> \unexpanded\expandafter\def\csname\s!do\e!start#3#1\expandafter\endcsname
> \expandafter[\expandafter##\expandafter1\expandafter]\expandafter##\expand
> after2\csname\e!stop#3#1\endcsname {\begingroup
> \doenumerationinit{#1}{#2}{#3}%
> \@@notemakedescription[##1]{}{##2}%
> \endgroup
> \namednoteparameter{#1}\c!next}}
>
> Example:
>
> \starttext
>
> One\startfootnote one\stopfootnote
> Two\startfootnote two\stopfootnote
>
> \setupnote[footnote][next=\autoinsertnextspace]
>
> One\startfootnote one\stopfootnote
> Two\startfootnote two\stopfootnote
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
Thanks!
But, following Mojca's comment, I am expecting:
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 09:20, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> Fixed in next beta.
:)
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* Re: \setupnote (was subfootnote)
2010-10-12 15:06 ` Alan BRASLAU
@ 2010-10-12 15:18 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-10-12 15:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 12-10-2010 5:06, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
>> Fixed in next beta.
Not unless Wolfgang mails me a patch that he's confident with (as this
is sort of tricky). Okay, 'next' can be any next, so watch a "fixed in
*the* next beta" -)
Hans
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* Re: \setupnote (was subfootnote)
2010-10-12 11:09 ` Yury G. Kudryashov
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@ 2010-10-14 9:03 ` luigi scarso
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From: luigi scarso @ 2010-10-14 9:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Yury G. Kudryashov <urkud@ya.ru> wrote:
> luigi scarso wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Alan BRASLAU <alan.braslau@cea.fr>
>> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 12 October 2010 11:54:28 Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hans recommended:
>>>>
>>>> \stopfootnote{}
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> This will work, but it is pretty ugly.%
>>> \startfootnote
>>> Hopefully Hans will fix this in mkiv.
>>> \stopfootnote{}
>>> In the meantime, we will just have to make do,
>>> but the special syntax as seen here raises eyebrows
>>> with my MS-Word bound collaborators.
>> Maybe for now
>> \let\StartFootnote\startfootnote
>> \def\StopFootnote{\stopfootnote{}}
>> and after fix
>> \let\StartFootnote\startfootnote
>> \let\StopFootnote\stopfootnote
> How would that help? \somecommand automatically gobbles the next space.
>>
>>
I meant this
\long\def\StartFootnote#1\StopFootnote{\startfootnote#1\stopfootnote\relax{} }
--
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* Re: subfootnote
2010-10-07 8:36 ` subfootnote Hans Hagen
@ 2011-02-15 10:24 ` Steffen Wolfrum
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2011-02-15 10:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 07.10.2010 um 10:36 schrieb Hans Hagen:
>
>> \definestructureseparatorset [footnote][][]
>> \definestructureconversionset[footnote][number,characters][numbers]
>> \setupenumerations[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote,numberseparatorset=footnote]
>>
>> \setupfootnotes[way=bytext]%<- here is the problem!!
>>
>> \starttext
>> test \footnote{xxxx}
>> text
>> test \startfootnote note \stopfootnote
>> test \startsubfootnote subnote \stopsubfootnote
>> test \startfootnote note \stopfootnote
>> \stoptext
>
> fixed in next beta
Yes, this was fixed.
But in todays beta (20110211) suddenly there appears "number" in front of the actual footnote number.
Please run example below:
\definestructureseparatorset [footnote][][]
\definestructureconversionset[footnote][number,characters][numbers]
\setupenumerations[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote,numberseparatorset=footnote]
\setupfootnotes[way=bytext]
\starttext
test \footnote{xxxx}
text
test \startfootnote note \stopfootnote
test \startsubfootnote subnote \stopsubfootnote
test \startfootnote note \stopfootnote
\stoptext
Steffen
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