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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323328-746959623-1300048483=:29753 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Sat, 12 Mar 2011, Henry House wrote: > Proch=E1zka Luk=E1=A8 wrote: > [...] >>> 5) how to better promote context to new/latex users? >> >> For LaTeX incomers: it would be good to provide a sample setup=20 >> (module?) which would make Ctx generated .pdf looking very closely to=20 >> that been generated by LaTeX. >> >> Now, if you see a .pdf document and you are familiar with LaTeX, you=20 >> recognize immediately whether or not it was generated by LaTeX (Word's= =20 >> signature is also unmatchable). I don't think that we should try to copy that style. >> The perfect feature of ConTeXt is that all these features may be=20 >> systematically altered (often [almost] impossible in LaTeX) but you=20 >> must search enough and study (and maybe ask the forum) to get the=20 >> result which would fulfil your aesthetic requirements. > > I strongly agree that sample set-up code (ideally well-commented so that > it also serves as a tutorial of sorts) to reproduce the style of LaTeX > would be helpful. A better idea will be to show how to create ConTeXt style files for well=20 defined styles e.g., style for some journal, say AMS or IEEE, or even the= =20 style of LaTeX (if someone can point out its exact specification) > The appearance of LaTeX documents isn't perfect but it > produces reasonably high-quality results suitable for complex technical > documents right out of the box of the box without any tweaking, whereas > ConTeXt requires (at least it did for me) some trouble to set it up for > the first time. To some extent this is not because of the merit of the > LaTeX design itself but the fact that it is familiar and therefore > highly readable to someone used to reading it. It is also the point of > departure for a LaTeX user wanting to convert to using ConTeXt; hence, i > would imagine many such people would prefer to tweak a LaTeX-like > document appearance to better suit their needs rather than starting with > something quite different. Certainly, this was the case for me; being > basically satisfied with my LaTeX documents but wanting more control and > the option to use the advanced features of ConTeXt. Having sample set-up > code that emulated LaTeX would have eased the initial transition for me. I agree, partially. One of the difficulties in getting a good design with= =20 ConTeXt is that you should know what a good design is! It you have a=20 pre-specified style guideline, then it is easy to reproduce it in ConTeXt.= =20 If not, you can be stuck up experimenting whether you the space above a=20 section be twice as big the space below it or the other way round. 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