* math: using bold charaters for number sets
@ 2011-05-24 11:23 Paul Menzel
2011-05-24 18:25 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Paul Menzel @ 2011-05-24 11:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Dear ConTeXt folks,
according to [1] the number sets were originally set using bold
characters and only on the blackboard the double strokes were used.
ConTeXt defines for example `\naturalnumbers` or `\reals` [2] which are
set using double strokes.
How can I redefine those to be just bold?
Thanks,
Paul
PS: Does somebody actually use these commands (`\naturalnumbers`, …`) or
do you define for example `\N`?
[1] http://projekte.dante.de/DanteFAQ/MathematischerFormelsatz#22
[2] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Blackboard_bold
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* Re: math: using bold charaters for number sets
2011-05-24 11:23 math: using bold charaters for number sets Paul Menzel
@ 2011-05-24 18:25 ` Hans Hagen
2011-05-24 19:46 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-05-24 18:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 24-5-2011 1:23, Paul Menzel wrote:
> Dear ConTeXt folks,
>
>
> according to [1] the number sets were originally set using bold
> characters and only on the blackboard the double strokes were used.
>
> ConTeXt defines for example `\naturalnumbers` or `\reals` [2] which are
> set using double strokes.
>
> How can I redefine those to be just bold?
I've made something for an upcoming beta:
\startformula
\reals
{\mathbf R}
\utfchar{"0211D}
\utfchar{"1D411}
\stopformula
\setupmathematics
[rendering=1]
\startformula
\reals
{\mathbf R}
\utfchar{"0211D}
\utfchar{"1D411}
\stopformula
That give the desired result. But we need to set up some rendering
vectors so I need to discuss it with Aditya first.
And of course Aditya want as export
<m:mi>ℝ</m:mi>
<m:mi>𝐑</m:mi>
<m:mi>ℝ</m:mi>
<m:mi>𝐑</m:mi>
So that is also taken care of.
Hans
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* Re: math: using bold charaters for number sets
2011-05-24 18:25 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-05-24 19:46 ` Aditya Mahajan
2011-05-24 20:52 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2011-05-24 19:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, 24 May 2011, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 24-5-2011 1:23, Paul Menzel wrote:
>> Dear ConTeXt folks,
>>
>>
>> according to [1] the number sets were originally set using bold
>> characters and only on the blackboard the double strokes were used.
>>
>> ConTeXt defines for example `\naturalnumbers` or `\reals` [2] which are
>> set using double strokes.
>>
>> How can I redefine those to be just bold?
>
> I've made something for an upcoming beta:
>
> \startformula
> \reals
> {\mathbf R}
> \utfchar{"0211D}
> \utfchar{"1D411}
> \stopformula
>
> \setupmathematics
> [rendering=1]
I will prefer something more verbose than rendering=1. Perhaps,
numbersets=blackboard and numbersets=bold.
> \startformula
> \reals
> {\mathbf R}
> \utfchar{"0211D}
> \utfchar{"1D411}
> \stopformula
>
> That give the desired result. But we need to set up some rendering vectors so
> I need to discuss it with Aditya first.
A bit tricky. Is \reals == ℝ? That is, what if I type ℝ should the
output be bold R, or should ℝ always map to the corresponding slot in the
unicode math font?
> And of course Aditya want as export
>
> <m:mi>ℝ</m:mi>
> <m:mi>𝐑</m:mi>
> <m:mi>ℝ</m:mi>
> <m:mi>𝐑</m:mi>
>
> So that is also taken care of.
Thanks :)
Aditya
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* Re: math: using bold charaters for number sets
2011-05-24 19:46 ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2011-05-24 20:52 ` Hans Hagen
2011-07-23 11:01 ` [solved] " Paul Menzel
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-05-24 20:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 24-5-2011 9:46, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> I will prefer something more verbose than rendering=1. Perhaps,
> numbersets=blackboard and numbersets=bold.
Sure, but I needed a quick test -)
> A bit tricky. Is \reals == ℝ? That is, what if I type ℝ should the
> output be bold R, or should ℝ always map to the corresponding slot in
> the unicode math font?
- the export is the original (but \reals becomes ℝ)
- the rendering becomes ℝ or bold-R
you can play with the beta on the ftp server ... (math-ren.lua: we can
consider runtime vector loading)
\setupbackend[export=yes]
\starttext
\startTEXpage
\startformula
\reals {\mathbf R} \utfchar{"0211D} \utfchar{"1D411}
\stopformula
\setupmathematics[symbolset=blackboard-to-bold]
\startformula
\reals {\mathbf R} \utfchar{"0211D} \utfchar{"1D411}
\stopformula
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext
There is also support for:
\setupmathematics
[symbolset={blackboard-to-bold,adityas-favourutes}]
Maybe we should start thinking of \definemathematics.
Hans
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* Re: [solved] math: using bold charaters for number sets
2011-05-24 20:52 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-07-23 11:01 ` Paul Menzel
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From: Paul Menzel @ 2011-07-23 11:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am Dienstag, den 24.05.2011, 22:52 +0200 schrieb Hans Hagen:
> On 24-5-2011 9:46, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>
> > I will prefer something more verbose than rendering=1. Perhaps,
> > numbersets=blackboard and numbersets=bold.
>
> Sure, but I needed a quick test -)
Just to close this topic. The current syntax(?)/command is the
following.
\setupmathematics
[symbolset=blackboard-to-bold]
> > A bit tricky. Is \reals == ℝ? That is, what if I type ℝ should the
> > output be bold R, or should ℝ always map to the corresponding slot in
> > the unicode math font?
>
> - the export is the original (but \reals becomes ℝ)
> - the rendering becomes ℝ or bold-R
I prefer that ℝ is rendered as bold-R.
[…]
Thanks,
Paul
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