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From: Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: Lilypond
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 04:19:50 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.02.1108200411240.16403@nqv-gnoyrg.tngrjnl.2jver.arg> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <61F3C339-8949-48E3-97DD-8C6071958B29@fiee.net>

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On Fri, 19 Aug 2011, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

> Am 2011-08-19 um 17:08 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
>
> But - can you even support different setups, say
>
> \startlilypondpreamble
> global settings for everything
> \stoplilypondpreamble
>
> \startlilypondpreamble[snippet]
> global settings for snippets
> \stoplilypondpreamble
>
> \startlilypondpreamble[fullscore]
> global settings for full scores
> \stoplilypondpreamble
>
> \startlilypond[setup=fullscore]
> the score
> \stoplilypond
>
> etc.

Yes. I can support the following syntax:

\startbuffer[snippets] ... \stopbuffer

\startbuffer[fullscore] ... \stopbuffer

\startbuffer[common] ... \stopbuffer

\startlilypond[bufferbefore={snippets,common}, bufferafter={....}]
.... 
\stoplilypond

(In fact, provide similar support for anything defined using the filter 
module).

>> The other thing is to be able to change linespace, papersize, offset, etc 
>> using parameters, so that one can say:
>> \startlilypond[linespace=...]
>> ...
>> \stoplilypond
>> This will require some lua side processing.
>
> You mean, translate ConTeXt-style settings to LilyPond settings, like we did 
> with the old module?

Yes.

> That wouldn’t make much sense. LilyPond just has too much settings. And most 
> of them you can set in different ways. To fully support this, you’d need a 
> complete LilyPond parser including Scheme. And a small set of settings is 
> never the right set for everyone.

OK.

> Ok, there are a few settings that we could translate, e.g. set ConTeXt’s main 
> fonts also for LilyPond.

Agreed. Does anyone know how to get the name of the current font in MkIV?

> We don’t need LilyPond's layout settings, as long as we go the 
> \externalfigure path.

But I think that at least automatic paper size settings (set paper 
size to be equal to text area) are needed.

> I don’t know a solution for line breaking of scores - if you’d set LilyPond’s 
> page size to ConTeXt’s remaining space, it would stay the same for the second 
> page. Perhaps we can get single lines (systems) and let ConTeXt to the page 
> breaking. I’ll look into that.

OK.

> But I don’t know how we can make it "right" WRT LilyPond snippets - I’d want 
> to align a note systems’s base line with ConTeXt’s text baseline, but the 
> height and clipping of a snippet depends on the visible elements. Without 
> some picture analysis (or runtime data from LilyPond, that doesn’t exist 
> AFAIK) you need to adjust your snippets manually.

Does lilypond-book handle this at all? It does not appear to. Manually 
adjusting each inline snippet will be too much work, IMO.

>> Do you know how lilypond numbers its output files. In some cases I get 
>> filename-1.pdf sometimes not. Can I force it to always give filename-1.pdf 
>> or always give filename.pdf
>
> LilyPond adds a number to EPS, if there’s more that one page.
> But in my songbook setup, I always get a filename-temp-lilypond-##.eps plus 
> an identical filename-temp-lilypond-##-1.eps
>
> When you order more than one \midi{} in several \score blocks, the first MIDI 
> file is unnumbered, the second gets number 1 etc.; didn’t try with different 
> \layout blocks yet.
>
> Seems like I must do some tests with multipage scores.

Look at the current version on github. It should be able to handle 
multi-page snippets.

Aditya

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-20  8:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-18 22:32 buffer names in MKII Mojca Miklavec
2011-08-18 21:29 ` Aditya Mahajan
2011-08-19  7:53   ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2011-08-19 15:08     ` Lilypond (Re: buffer names in MKII) Aditya Mahajan
2011-08-19 20:18       ` Lilypond Henning Hraban Ramm
2011-08-20  8:19         ` Aditya Mahajan [this message]
2011-08-21  1:22           ` Lilypond David Wooten
2011-08-21 12:07           ` Lilypond Henning Hraban Ramm
2011-08-21 18:25             ` Lilypond Henning Hraban Ramm
2011-08-21 22:14             ` Lilypond Aditya Mahajan
2011-08-21 22:24               ` Lilypond Hans Hagen
2011-08-21 22:32                 ` Lilypond Aditya Mahajan
2011-08-22  1:53               ` Lilypond Aditya Mahajan
2011-08-22 13:59                 ` Lilypond Henning Hraban Ramm
2011-08-22 15:18                   ` Lilypond Aditya Mahajan
2011-08-19  0:09 ` buffer names in MKII Aditya Mahajan
2011-08-19  7:53 ` Hans Hagen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-06-08 22:31 Lilypond David Wooten
2014-06-10  9:53 ` Lilypond Henning Hraban Ramm
2014-06-10 18:26   ` Lilypond David Wooten
2014-06-11  8:51     ` Lilypond Henning Hraban Ramm
2014-06-12 17:00       ` Lilypond David Wooten
2014-06-12 17:37         ` Lilypond Henning Hraban Ramm
2014-06-12 20:21           ` Lilypond David Wooten
2007-08-26 22:35 lilypond Hans Hagen
2007-07-03 15:59 lilypond Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
2007-07-06 20:25 ` lilypond Henning Hraban Ramm
2007-08-27 14:28   ` lilypond Mojca Miklavec
2007-08-27 10:28 ` lilypond Steffen Wolfrum

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