* Small integral signes with Palatino @ 2012-05-20 10:52 Tim Steenvoorden 2012-05-24 8:05 ` Tim Steenvoorden 0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Tim Steenvoorden @ 2012-05-20 10:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 218 bytes --] Dear list, Have some problems with the latest beta. I get small integral signs when using Palatino math (see minimal example in attachment). Any clou? ConTeXt version: 2012.05.18 23:50, Mac OS X 10.6.8 Regards, Tim [-- Attachment #2: integrals_mkii.pdf --] [-- Type: application/pdf, Size: 26825 bytes --] [-- Attachment #3: integrals_mkiv.pdf --] [-- Type: application/pdf, Size: 13532 bytes --] [-- Attachment #4: integrals.tex --] [-- Type: application/x-tex, Size: 206 bytes --] [-- Attachment #5: Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-20 10:52 Small integral signes with Palatino Tim Steenvoorden @ 2012-05-24 8:05 ` Tim Steenvoorden 2012-05-24 8:09 ` luigi scarso 0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Tim Steenvoorden @ 2012-05-24 8:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mailing list for ConTeXt users Hi all, I'm still struggling with the same issue in 2012.05.24. Anyone? Cheers, Tim 2012/5/20 Tim Steenvoorden <tim.steenvoorden@gmail.com>: > Dear list, > > Have some problems with the latest beta. I get small integral signs > when using Palatino math (see minimal example in attachment). Any > clou? > > ConTeXt version: 2012.05.18 23:50, Mac OS X 10.6.8 > > Regards, > Tim ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-24 8:05 ` Tim Steenvoorden @ 2012-05-24 8:09 ` luigi scarso 2012-05-24 13:59 ` Aditya Mahajan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2012-05-24 8:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Tim Steenvoorden <tim.steenvoorden@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm still struggling with the same issue in 2012.05.24. Anyone? > > Cheers, > Tim Yes --- sorry, I can only confirm your issue. -- luigi ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-24 8:09 ` luigi scarso @ 2012-05-24 13:59 ` Aditya Mahajan 2012-05-24 21:40 ` Tim Steenvoorden 2012-05-24 22:05 ` Mojca Miklavec 0 siblings, 2 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2012-05-24 13:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Thu, 24 May 2012, luigi scarso wrote: > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Tim Steenvoorden > <tim.steenvoorden@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm still struggling with the same issue in 2012.05.24. Anyone? >> >> Cheers, >> Tim > Yes --- sorry, I can only confirm your issue. Any idea when this was introduced (or if this bug was always present)? I think that adding a patch to px-math.cfg to scale DisplayOperatorMinHeight should fix it; but I don't have the time to look into this right now. Aditya ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-24 13:59 ` Aditya Mahajan @ 2012-05-24 21:40 ` Tim Steenvoorden 2012-05-24 22:05 ` Mojca Miklavec 1 sibling, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Tim Steenvoorden @ 2012-05-24 21:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Sorry, can't help with that. The first ConTeXt beta I tested for TeXLive 2012 is 2012.05.14. Before that I used 2011.05.18 from TeXLive 2011. Tim 2012/5/24 Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu>: > On Thu, 24 May 2012, luigi scarso wrote: > >> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Tim Steenvoorden >> <tim.steenvoorden@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm still struggling with the same issue in 2012.05.24. Anyone? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Tim >> >> Yes --- sorry, I can only confirm your issue. > > > Any idea when this was introduced (or if this bug was always present)? I > think that adding a patch to px-math.cfg to scale DisplayOperatorMinHeight > should fix it; but I don't have the time to look into this right now. > > Aditya > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-24 13:59 ` Aditya Mahajan 2012-05-24 21:40 ` Tim Steenvoorden @ 2012-05-24 22:05 ` Mojca Miklavec 2012-05-24 22:13 ` Mojca Miklavec 1 sibling, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2012-05-24 22:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > > Any idea when this was introduced (or if this bug was always present)? beta 2011.07.14 16:09 (https://github.com/mojca/context/commit/58e91401c966ea58ff13645addf05f8f1c506c0e or http://gitorious.org/context/context/commit/06c7a7fdaac34512cdc3ff250dec5b1a7ab3052a/diffs/a8d0a863d99794b231e58c0e8945448c19bd6215 that's not able to display any given diff of ConTeXt releases) Go figure. There's nothing obviously math-related in there at all. Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-24 22:05 ` Mojca Miklavec @ 2012-05-24 22:13 ` Mojca Miklavec 2012-05-24 22:39 ` Hans Hagen 2012-05-24 22:40 ` Aditya Mahajan 0 siblings, 2 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2012-05-24 22:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: >> >> Any idea when this was introduced (or if this bug was always present)? > > beta 2011.07.14 16:09 Oh, I'm sorry, nonsense. That was the last working one. The one introducing the bug was 2011.07.19 10:35 https://github.com/mojca/context/commit/a3f9fa299ecc3c9d8c3989c6e219dd9a1bcefaa1 In that version the functionality was completely broken (overlapping limits), then it improved with time a bit, but never recovered properly back. Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-24 22:13 ` Mojca Miklavec @ 2012-05-24 22:39 ` Hans Hagen 2012-05-24 22:43 ` Aditya Mahajan 2012-05-24 22:40 ` Aditya Mahajan 1 sibling, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-05-24 22:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Mojca Miklavec On 25-5-2012 00:13, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: >>> >>> Any idea when this was introduced (or if this bug was always present)? >> >> beta 2011.07.14 16:09 > > Oh, I'm sorry, nonsense. That was the last working one. The one > introducing the bug was > 2011.07.19 10:35 > > https://github.com/mojca/context/commit/a3f9fa299ecc3c9d8c3989c6e219dd9a1bcefaa1 > > In that version the functionality was completely broken (overlapping > limits), then it improved with time a bit, but never recovered > properly back. something math_operator_size and/or DisplayOPeratorMinHEight (btw, did you stop pushing betas in that hub?) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-24 22:39 ` Hans Hagen @ 2012-05-24 22:43 ` Aditya Mahajan 2012-05-25 8:55 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2012-05-24 22:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Fri, 25 May 2012, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 25-5-2012 00:13, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: >>>> >>>> Any idea when this was introduced (or if this bug was always present)? >>> >>> beta 2011.07.14 16:09 >> >> Oh, I'm sorry, nonsense. That was the last working one. The one >> introducing the bug was >> 2011.07.19 10:35 >> >> https://github.com/mojca/context/commit/a3f9fa299ecc3c9d8c3989c6e219dd9a1bcefaa1 >> >> In that version the functionality was completely broken (overlapping >> limits), then it improved with time a bit, but never recovered >> properly back. > > something math_operator_size and/or DisplayOPeratorMinHEight It's more complicated because tx-fonts behaves correctly. Aditya ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-24 22:43 ` Aditya Mahajan @ 2012-05-25 8:55 ` Hans Hagen 2012-05-27 15:16 ` Tim Steenvoorden 0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-05-25 8:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 25-5-2012 00:43, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > It's more complicated because tx-fonts behaves correctly. indeed, and I always thought that these fonts were similar in setup Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-25 8:55 ` Hans Hagen @ 2012-05-27 15:16 ` Tim Steenvoorden 2012-05-27 15:31 ` luigi scarso 0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Tim Steenvoorden @ 2012-05-27 15:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Still get a small integral sign in the latest beta (2012.05.26 16:40). Times works perfectly. Am I doing something wrong here? \definetypeface[palatino][rm][serif][palatino] \definetypeface[palatino][mm][math][palatino] \setupbodyfont[palatino] \starttext \startformula \int_0^\infty \frac{1}{x} {\rm d} x \stopformula \stoptext Cheers, Tim 2012/5/25 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>: > On 25-5-2012 00:43, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > >> It's more complicated because tx-fonts behaves correctly. > > > indeed, and I always thought that these fonts were similar in setup > > > Hans > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-27 15:16 ` Tim Steenvoorden @ 2012-05-27 15:31 ` luigi scarso 2012-05-27 17:50 ` luigi scarso 0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2012-05-27 15:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Tim Steenvoorden <tim.steenvoorden@gmail.com> wrote: > Still get a small integral sign in the latest beta (2012.05.26 16:40). > Times works perfectly. Am I doing something wrong here? > > \definetypeface[palatino][rm][serif][palatino] > \definetypeface[palatino][mm][math][palatino] > > \setupbodyfont[palatino] > > \starttext > > \startformula > \int_0^\infty \frac{1}{x} {\rm d} x > \stopformula > > \stoptext confirmed (again) -- luigi ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-27 15:31 ` luigi scarso @ 2012-05-27 17:50 ` luigi scarso 2012-05-27 23:16 ` luigi scarso 0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2012-05-27 17:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 5:31 PM, luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Tim Steenvoorden > <tim.steenvoorden@gmail.com> wrote: >> Still get a small integral sign in the latest beta (2012.05.26 16:40). >> Times works perfectly. Am I doing something wrong here? >> >> \definetypeface[palatino][rm][serif][palatino] >> \definetypeface[palatino][mm][math][palatino] >> >> \setupbodyfont[palatino] >> >> \starttext >> >> \startformula >> \int_0^\infty \frac{1}{x} {\rm d} x >> \stopformula >> >> \stoptext > confirmed (again) Stupid question: why we are not using texgyrepagella-math-regular.otf ? -- luigi ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-27 17:50 ` luigi scarso @ 2012-05-27 23:16 ` luigi scarso 2012-05-27 23:27 ` Aditya Mahajan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2012-05-27 23:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 7:50 PM, luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 5:31 PM, luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Tim Steenvoorden >> <tim.steenvoorden@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Still get a small integral sign in the latest beta (2012.05.26 16:40). >>> Times works perfectly. Am I doing something wrong here? >>> >>> \definetypeface[palatino][rm][serif][palatino] >>> \definetypeface[palatino][mm][math][palatino] >>> >>> \setupbodyfont[palatino] >>> >>> \starttext >>> >>> \startformula >>> \int_0^\infty \frac{1}{x} {\rm d} x >>> \stopformula >>> >>> \stoptext >> confirmed (again) > Stupid question: why we are not using > texgyrepagella-math-regular.otf > ? > > > -- > luigi Different, but still wrong \unprotect \starttypescript [\s!math] [palatinomath] \definefontsynonym [PalatinoMath] [\s!file:texgyrepagella-math-regular.otf] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [\s!math] [palatinomath] [\s!name] \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [PalatinoMath] [\s!features=\s!math\mathsizesuffix] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [PalatinoTest] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!rm] [\s!serif] [palatino] [\s!default] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!mm] [\s!math] [palatinomath] [\s!default] \quittypescriptscanning \stoptypescript \protect \usetypescript[PalatinoTest] \setupbodyfont[PalatinoTest,12pt] \starttext \input knuth \par \startformula \int_0^\infty \frac{1}{x} {\rm d} x \stopformula \stoptext -- luigi ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-27 23:16 ` luigi scarso @ 2012-05-27 23:27 ` Aditya Mahajan 2012-05-28 1:29 ` Steve Peter ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2012-05-27 23:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Mon, 28 May 2012, luigi scarso wrote: > Different, but still wrong > > \unprotect > \starttypescript [\s!math] [palatinomath] > \definefontsynonym [PalatinoMath] [\s!file:texgyrepagella-math-regular.otf] > \stoptypescript > \starttypescript [\s!math] [palatinomath] [\s!name] > \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [PalatinoMath] > [\s!features=\s!math\mathsizesuffix] > \stoptypescript > \starttypescript [PalatinoTest] > \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!rm] [\s!serif] [palatino] [\s!default] > \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!mm] [\s!math] [palatinomath] > [\s!default] > \quittypescriptscanning > \stoptypescript > \protect > > \usetypescript[PalatinoTest] > \setupbodyfont[PalatinoTest,12pt] > \starttext > \input knuth \par > \startformula > \int_0^\infty \frac{1}{x} {\rm d} x > \stopformula > \stoptext In this case \int and \sum are of the same size, so it appears as a design choice, and more importantly, we can patch the font to change DisplayOperatorMinHeight. BTW, what is the status of Pagella Math? Should we default to that instead of px-fonts? Aditya ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-27 23:27 ` Aditya Mahajan @ 2012-05-28 1:29 ` Steve Peter 2012-05-29 8:43 ` Herbert Voss 2012-05-28 5:27 ` Mojca Miklavec 2012-05-28 12:50 ` Hans Hagen 2 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Steve Peter @ 2012-05-28 1:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On May 27, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > BTW, what is the status of Pagella Math? Nearly complete from what I hear. Steve ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-28 1:29 ` Steve Peter @ 2012-05-29 8:43 ` Herbert Voss 2012-05-29 9:04 ` Tim Steenvoorden 0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Herbert Voss @ 2012-05-29 8:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Steve Peter schrieb: > > On May 27, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > >> BTW, what is the status of Pagella Math? > > Nearly complete from what I hear. it is available from CTAN: http://CTAN.ORG/tex-archive/fonts/tex-gyre-math Herbert ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-29 8:43 ` Herbert Voss @ 2012-05-29 9:04 ` Tim Steenvoorden 2012-05-29 9:15 ` Tim Steenvoorden 0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Tim Steenvoorden @ 2012-05-29 9:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users The integral sign is now big enough, but spacing between the sign and its bounds is too large... (In the px-font.) Cheers, Tim 2012/5/29 Herbert Voss <Herbert.Voss@fu-berlin.de>: > > Steve Peter schrieb: >> >> On May 27, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: >> >>> BTW, what is the status of Pagella Math? >> >> Nearly complete from what I hear. > > it is available from CTAN: > http://CTAN.ORG/tex-archive/fonts/tex-gyre-math > > Herbert > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-29 9:04 ` Tim Steenvoorden @ 2012-05-29 9:15 ` Tim Steenvoorden 0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Tim Steenvoorden @ 2012-05-29 9:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users The same is true for other mathfonts discussed in the thread "Math fonts in TeXLive 2012". Cheers, Tim 2012/5/29 Tim Steenvoorden <tim.steenvoorden@gmail.com>: > The integral sign is now big enough, but spacing between the sign and > its bounds is too large... (In the px-font.) > > Cheers, > Tim > > > 2012/5/29 Herbert Voss <Herbert.Voss@fu-berlin.de>: >> >> Steve Peter schrieb: >>> >>> On May 27, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: >>> >>>> BTW, what is the status of Pagella Math? >>> >>> Nearly complete from what I hear. >> >> it is available from CTAN: >> http://CTAN.ORG/tex-archive/fonts/tex-gyre-math >> >> Herbert >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net >> archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-27 23:27 ` Aditya Mahajan 2012-05-28 1:29 ` Steve Peter @ 2012-05-28 5:27 ` Mojca Miklavec 2012-05-28 12:50 ` Hans Hagen 2 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2012-05-28 5:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > > BTW, what is the status of Pagella Math? Should we default to that instead > of px-fonts? Pagella didn't get much testing so far, it has not even been imported into TeX Live yet and it didn't get on CTAN yet. There are some known issues (Hans wrote some workarounds, but from what Khaled wrote LuaLaTeX still bails out.) I would prefer to have support for px fixed (which probably has to be done anyway) and switch to pagella soon after TL freeze, rather then get completely unexpected surprizes. Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-27 23:27 ` Aditya Mahajan 2012-05-28 1:29 ` Steve Peter 2012-05-28 5:27 ` Mojca Miklavec @ 2012-05-28 12:50 ` Hans Hagen 2 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-05-28 12:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 28-5-2012 01:27, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > On Mon, 28 May 2012, luigi scarso wrote: > >> Different, but still wrong >> >> \unprotect >> \starttypescript [\s!math] [palatinomath] >> \definefontsynonym [PalatinoMath] >> [\s!file:texgyrepagella-math-regular.otf] >> \stoptypescript >> \starttypescript [\s!math] [palatinomath] [\s!name] >> \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [PalatinoMath] >> [\s!features=\s!math\mathsizesuffix] >> \stoptypescript >> \starttypescript [PalatinoTest] >> \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!rm] [\s!serif] [palatino] >> [\s!default] >> \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!mm] [\s!math] [palatinomath] >> [\s!default] >> \quittypescriptscanning >> \stoptypescript >> \protect >> >> \usetypescript[PalatinoTest] >> \setupbodyfont[PalatinoTest,12pt] >> \starttext >> \input knuth \par >> \startformula >> \int_0^\infty \frac{1}{x} {\rm d} x >> \stopformula >> \stoptext > > In this case \int and \sum are of the same size, so it appears as a > design choice, and more importantly, we can patch the font to change > DisplayOperatorMinHeight. It's really weird ... in the virtual font builder we have DisplayOperatorMinHeight = t . math_operator_size . text_style and there has been a good reason for this otherwise it would not be there. For the normal (12pt) size this becomes 1040448 for px as well as tx. Both fonts (when looking at them with \showfont[pxex.tfm] etc have the same shapes. Concerning the rest of the parameters, only for this case irrelevant differ a bit. % name px tx % RadicalRuleThickness 46399 44040 2359 % FractionDenominatorDisplayStyleGapMin 139197 132120 7077 % OverbarVerticalGap 139197 132120 7077 % RadicalDisplayStyleVerticalGap 133103 130744 2359 % UnderbarVerticalGap 139197 132120 7077 % FractionNumeratorGapMin 46399 44040 2359 % OverbarRuleThickness 46399 44040 2359 % StackGapMin 139197 132120 7077 % RadicalVerticalGap 57998.75 55050 2948.75 % StackDisplayStyleGapMin 324793 308280 16513 % AccentBaseHeight 353107.968 353894.4 -786.43200000003 % FractionRuleThickness 46399 44040 2359 % FractionDenominatorGapMin 46399 44040 2359 % OverbarExtraAscender 46399 44040 2359 % SubSuperscriptGapMin 185596 176160 9436 % MinConnectorOverlap 11599.75 11010 589.75 % FractionNumeratorDisplayStyleGapMin 139197 132120 7077 % UnderbarRuleThickness 46399 44040 2359 % RadicalExtraAscender 46399 44040 2359 So, there is no real reason for px to behave different than tx. However, when we nil DisplayOperatorMinHeight we get the scaled glyph. Okay, we could have threshold issue but even putting some real large math mess after itm it will not bump to the next size shape (there is only one larger size btw) .. puzzling > BTW, what is the status of Pagella Math? Should we default to that > instead of px-fonts? not yet Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-24 22:13 ` Mojca Miklavec 2012-05-24 22:39 ` Hans Hagen @ 2012-05-24 22:40 ` Aditya Mahajan 2012-05-24 23:13 ` Hans Hagen 2012-05-25 8:55 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 2 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2012-05-24 22:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Fri, 25 May 2012, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: >>> >>> Any idea when this was introduced (or if this bug was always present)? >> >> beta 2011.07.14 16:09 > > Oh, I'm sorry, nonsense. That was the last working one. The one > introducing the bug was > 2011.07.19 10:35 > > https://github.com/mojca/context/commit/a3f9fa299ecc3c9d8c3989c6e219dd9a1bcefaa1 > > In that version the functionality was completely broken (overlapping > limits), then it improved with time a bit, but never recovered > properly back. I tested with asana, hoping that opentype fonts will behave better, but asana is hopelessly broken in the other direction: too big integrals and sums. To fix asana, change DisplayOperatorMinHeight = more, to DisplayOperatorMinHeight = 0, (or just comment it) in asana-math.lfg. After that, you can at least use asana math as a work around. Euler and Stix fonts work OK, and surprisingly so is txfonts! I thought that px- and tx-fonts were handled identically. Why does the bug only appear with px-fonts? Comparing the two files, I noticed that skewchar is not set in px fonts. Line 22 of px-math.lfg should be: { name = "texgyrepagella-bold.otf", vector = "tex-bf", skewchar=0x7F } , (but even after that change $\hat {\bi A}$ is set incorrectly). Aditya ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-24 22:40 ` Aditya Mahajan @ 2012-05-24 23:13 ` Hans Hagen 2012-05-25 2:17 ` Khaled Hosny 2012-05-25 8:55 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-05-24 23:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hi Khaled, just checking ... did the code related to display operator heights change as part of the math cleanup? Hans On 25-5-2012 00:40, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > On Fri, 25 May 2012, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > >> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: >>>> >>>> Any idea when this was introduced (or if this bug was always present)? >>> >>> beta 2011.07.14 16:09 >> >> Oh, I'm sorry, nonsense. That was the last working one. The one >> introducing the bug was >> 2011.07.19 10:35 >> >> https://github.com/mojca/context/commit/a3f9fa299ecc3c9d8c3989c6e219dd9a1bcefaa1 >> >> >> In that version the functionality was completely broken (overlapping >> limits), then it improved with time a bit, but never recovered >> properly back. > > I tested with asana, hoping that opentype fonts will behave better, but > asana is hopelessly broken in the other direction: too big integrals and > sums. To fix asana, change > > DisplayOperatorMinHeight = more, > > to > > DisplayOperatorMinHeight = 0, > > (or just comment it) in asana-math.lfg. After that, you can at least use > asana math as a work around. > > Euler and Stix fonts work OK, and surprisingly so is txfonts! I thought > that px- and tx-fonts were handled identically. Why does the bug only > appear with px-fonts? > > Comparing the two files, I noticed that skewchar is not set in px fonts. > Line 22 of px-math.lfg should be: > > { name = "texgyrepagella-bold.otf", vector = "tex-bf", skewchar=0x7F } , > > (but even after that change $\hat {\bi A}$ is set incorrectly). > > Aditya > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry > to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-24 23:13 ` Hans Hagen @ 2012-05-25 2:17 ` Khaled Hosny 0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Khaled Hosny @ 2012-05-25 2:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users AFAIK, no. The code that handles extensible delimiters changed, but IIUC we are not talking about extensible symbol here. Regards, Khaled On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 01:13:10AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > Hi Khaled, > > just checking ... did the code related to display operator heights > change as part of the math cleanup? > > Hans > > > > > On 25-5-2012 00:40, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > >On Fri, 25 May 2012, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > > >>On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > >>>On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > >>>> > >>>>Any idea when this was introduced (or if this bug was always present)? > >>> > >>>beta 2011.07.14 16:09 > >> > >>Oh, I'm sorry, nonsense. That was the last working one. The one > >>introducing the bug was > >>2011.07.19 10:35 > >> > >>https://github.com/mojca/context/commit/a3f9fa299ecc3c9d8c3989c6e219dd9a1bcefaa1 > >> > >> > >>In that version the functionality was completely broken (overlapping > >>limits), then it improved with time a bit, but never recovered > >>properly back. > > > >I tested with asana, hoping that opentype fonts will behave better, but > >asana is hopelessly broken in the other direction: too big integrals and > >sums. To fix asana, change > > > >DisplayOperatorMinHeight = more, > > > >to > > > >DisplayOperatorMinHeight = 0, > > > >(or just comment it) in asana-math.lfg. After that, you can at least use > >asana math as a work around. > > > >Euler and Stix fonts work OK, and surprisingly so is txfonts! I thought > >that px- and tx-fonts were handled identically. Why does the bug only > >appear with px-fonts? > > > >Comparing the two files, I noticed that skewchar is not set in px fonts. > >Line 22 of px-math.lfg should be: > > > >{ name = "texgyrepagella-bold.otf", vector = "tex-bf", skewchar=0x7F } , > > > >(but even after that change $\hat {\bi A}$ is set incorrectly). > > > >Aditya > >___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > >If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry > >to the Wiki! > > > >maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > >http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > >webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > >archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > >wiki : http://contextgarden.net > >___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Small integral signes with Palatino 2012-05-24 22:40 ` Aditya Mahajan 2012-05-24 23:13 ` Hans Hagen @ 2012-05-25 8:55 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-05-25 8:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 25-5-2012 00:40, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > I tested with asana, hoping that opentype fonts will behave better, but > asana is hopelessly broken in the other direction: too big integrals and > sums. To fix asana, change > > DisplayOperatorMinHeight = more, > > to > > DisplayOperatorMinHeight = 0, fixed > { name = "texgyrepagella-bold.otf", vector = "tex-bf", skewchar=0x7F } , > > (but even after that change $\hat {\bi A}$ is set incorrectly). fixed ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
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