From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/81216 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aditya Mahajan Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: upto current Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: References: <5148AB62.50002@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1363718842 26457 80.91.229.3 (19 Mar 2013 18:47:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:47:22 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Mar 19 19:47:44 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UI1ZW-0002P7-07 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:47:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEE7101F2; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:47:18 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id gxQ9KhRazRw9; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:47:17 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29900101EC; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:47:17 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00351101EC for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:47:16 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 96fAJyy0DSEZ for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:47:14 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter1-ams.mf.surf.net (filter1-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.69]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F73101EB for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:47:14 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.12.86]) by filter1-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r2JIlCnG002190 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:47:13 +0100 Original-Received: FROM Decentralized.ECE.McGill.CA (Decentralized.ECE.McGill.CA [132.206.69.142]) By tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 5148B2AF.119E.26694 ; Authuser adityam; 19 Mar 2013 14:47:11 EDT In-Reply-To: <5148AB62.50002@wxs.nl> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (LNX 1266 2009-07-14) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=141.211.12.86; country=US; region=MI; city=Ann Arbor; postalcode=48109; latitude=42.2923; longitude=-83.7145; metrocode=505; areacode=734; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=42.2923,-83.7145&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0NJduLcyg - 604960dcba1d - 20130319 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.69 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:81216 Archived-At: On Tue, 19 Mar 2013, Hans Hagen wrote: > One these days there will be a first iteration of this years 'current' > release. This has to do with the texlive code freeze. Are there any plans to do an actual development freeze a few weeks before the TL code freeze to ensure that the TL version is not beta quality. Although most active users use ConTeXt standalone and are willing to update frequently, TL still plays an important role in introducing new users to ConTeXt. An experienced TeX user who wants to try ConTeXt is more likely to try ConTeXt distributed as part of TL rather than ConTeXt standalone. When there are serious bugs with ConTeXt TL, it gives the impression that ConTeXt is not a mature macro package. As anecdotal evidence, I used ConTeXt TL for my most recent article for tugboat. There were some serious bugs in ConTeXt TL (multi-column footnotes not working, marking styles not working, wrong font scaling, etc.) and I had to struggle to get everything to work correctly. Most of these bugs were fixed in the latest beta. But if I were a new user, I would not have the patience to download and test the latest beta when a supposedly stable release has serious bugs. So, I'd like to suggest that for a few weeks before the TL freeze, we do a ConTeXt-beta freeze with only changes being bug fixes. Aditya ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________