From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/49607 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michail Vidiassov Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Producing dvi Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:03:06 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: References: <49EB0C90.3070903@wxs.nl> <49EB2877.4050503@wxs.nl> <6faad9f00904190709m63187afexd2a5048c2e6e172c@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1240153932 7508 80.91.229.12 (19 Apr 2009 15:12:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:12:12 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Apr 19 17:13:31 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LvYi1-0007zp-7g for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:13:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3323D1FD24; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:12:01 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19908-01; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:11:38 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0041FCEC; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:11:38 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D3B1FCEC for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:11:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22398-08 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:11:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter1-til.mf.surf.net (filter1-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.217]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3711E1FCE9 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:11:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from serv.iaas.msu.ru (serv.iaas.msu.ru [212.192.224.252]) by filter1-til.mf.surf.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3JFBRR5028094 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:11:28 +0200 Original-Received: from [192.168.0.2] (host-81.200.0.155.su29.ru [81.200.0.155]) (authenticated bits=0) by serv.iaas.msu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n3JF2A5h007367 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:02:11 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from master@iaas.msu.ru) X-X-Sender: master@MacBook-2.local In-Reply-To: <6faad9f00904190709m63187afexd2a5048c2e6e172c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (OSX 1167 2008-08-23) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=212.192.224.252; country=RU; region=48; city=Moscow; latitude=55.7522; longitude=37.6156; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=55.7522,37.6156&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 210810345 - 3d7fc1b1543b - 20090419 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.217 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:49607 Archived-At: Dear Mojca, On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > If Asymptote is not able to handle PDF files, maybe Asymptote itself > would need extensions. (When I last tried to use Asymptote I gave up > since I was not able to figure out how to install it and started using > other tools.) This (installation problems) is part of the question why typesetting in Asymptote with ConTeXt is desirable - no need to maintain separate LaTeX installation, avoiding mixup with older version of ConTeXt that comes with it, etc. And at this moment Asymptote is (almost) the only tool that makes 3D PDF directly (without $$$$ Windows-only converter like Acrobat), is Metapost-like and not some CAD monster or VRML fossil. > If you would like asymptote to handle ConTeXt labels you should start > with mkii. But honestly: I don't really see when LaTeX for typesetting > labels would not suffice. ConTeXt is extremely good at page > formatting, but when it comes to typeset "$A$" for point labels, I > would not mind using LaTeX (If it's only about OpenType you cannot do > anything unless Asymptote gets extended, but even then you could use > XeTeX.) Apart from maintenance problems with the zoo of tools, Asymptote aspires for high quality of labels (and has invested considerable effort to preserve it in 3D mode), that implies that labels are to be in the same font as the main text and/or follow some predetermined style. That requirement is not easy to follow consistently if different tools are used to typeset body of the article and labels on pics. http://tug.org/pracjourn/2005-1/levine/levine.pdf > But as far as I know, if the only critical step is conversion of font > outlines into curves, gs is able to read PDF files as well. I see no > reason why one would require PS unless one uses very basic techniques > for document manipulation (it's a bit easier to parse and work with PS > than it is to work with PDF, but when it's done inside a bigger > project it probably pays off to support both; I guess that the > overhead should not be that big). As a side note - PS is a programming language very well suited for just this kind of problems. ;) Sincerely, Michail ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________