* em = slanted? [not found] <mailman.754.1186866351.2346.ntg-context@ntg.nl> @ 2007-08-12 1:07 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 2007-08-12 4:08 ` luigi scarso 2007-08-12 5:47 ` Aditya Mahajan 2007-08-12 1:34 ` mimimal typescripting Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 1 sibling, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-08-12 1:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context-request@ntg.nl Hello, Just a question for my curiousity: why \em switches to Slanted, not Italic? (I found this while setting up my own typescript for luatex.) Best, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: em = slanted? 2007-08-12 1:07 ` em = slanted? Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-08-12 4:08 ` luigi scarso 2007-08-12 5:47 ` Aditya Mahajan 1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2007-08-12 4:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Yatskovsky, mailing list for ConTeXt users On 8/12/07, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky <yatskovsky@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > Just a question for my curiousity: why \em switches to Slanted, not Italic? hmm, try \starttext aXX {\it aXX {\em aXX}} \em aXX \stoptext Do you see the difference between first \em and second \em ? \em stands for emphasize, so if surrounding texts is italic \em switch to roman. -- luigi ---------------------------------------------------------------- If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: em = slanted? 2007-08-12 1:07 ` em = slanted? Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 2007-08-12 4:08 ` luigi scarso @ 2007-08-12 5:47 ` Aditya Mahajan 2007-08-12 14:12 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2007-08-12 5:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Yatskovsky, mailing list for ConTeXt users On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: > Hello, > > Just a question for my curiousity: why \em switches to Slanted, not Italic? > (I found this while setting up my own typescript for luatex.) I don't know the reason for difference in defaults, but it can be changed: \setupbodyfontenvironment[default][em=italic] Aditya ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: em = slanted? 2007-08-12 5:47 ` Aditya Mahajan @ 2007-08-12 14:12 ` Hans Hagen [not found] ` <alpine.WNT.0.999.0708121204180.2624@nqvgln> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-08-12 14:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Yatskovsky Aditya Mahajan wrote: > On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Just a question for my curiousity: why \em switches to Slanted, not Italic? >> (I found this while setting up my own typescript for luatex.) > > I don't know the reason for difference in defaults, but it can be > changed: > > \setupbodyfontenvironment[default][em=italic] slanted has alwaye been the default .. dates from the time that we mostly used computer modern and i didn't want that italic for emphasizing Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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* Re: em = slanted? [not found] ` <alpine.WNT.0.999.0708121204180.2624@nqvgln> @ 2007-08-12 22:00 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-08-12 22:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Aditya Mahajan wrote: > Yes, I meant, why Context's defaults are different from latex's (and > plain tex) because i hardly used, plain, only used latex for one document, then moved on to lamstex, inrstex and then started making a package that was configurable nd and could handle dutch; i know plain, but my latex knowlegde is minimal (only what i hear at conferences) -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* mimimal typescripting [not found] <mailman.754.1186866351.2346.ntg-context@ntg.nl> 2007-08-12 1:07 ` em = slanted? Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-08-12 1:34 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 2007-08-12 14:14 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-08-12 1:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context-request@ntg.nl Hello, I'm wondering why before defining a typeface I must define a synonym for it. For example, my minimal working definition for Vladimir Script fontface is \starttypescript [serif] [vladimirscript] \definefontsynonym [Serif][name:vladimir][features=default] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [vladimirscript] \definetypeface [vladimirscript] [rm] [serif] [vladimirscript] [default] \stoptypescript Being XeTeX-adherent, it is a pain for me write that all for every font I use. Why I cannot specify it as simply as \starttypescript [vladimirscript] \definetypeface [vladimirscript] [rm] [serif] [name:vladimir] [default] \stoptypescript or better just \definetypeface [vladimirscript] [rm] [serif] [name:vladimir] [default] without any synonyms? -- Best regards, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: mimimal typescripting 2007-08-12 1:34 ` mimimal typescripting Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-08-12 14:14 ` Hans Hagen 2007-08-12 15:20 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-08-12 14:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Yatskovsky, mailing list for ConTeXt users Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: > Hello, > > I'm wondering why before defining a typeface I must define a synonym for it. For example, my minimal working definition for Vladimir Script fontface is > > \starttypescript [serif] [vladimirscript] > \definefontsynonym [Serif][name:vladimir][features=default] > \stoptypescript > \starttypescript [vladimirscript] > \definetypeface [vladimirscript] [rm] [serif] [vladimirscript] [default] > \stoptypescript > > Being XeTeX-adherent, it is a pain for me write that all for every font I use. Why I cannot specify it as simply as > > \starttypescript [vladimirscript] > \definetypeface [vladimirscript] [rm] [serif] [name:vladimir] [default] > \stoptypescript > > or better just > > \definetypeface [vladimirscript] [rm] [serif] [name:vladimir] [default] > > without any synonyms? > depends if you want to access the individual fonts later on, some fonts come with 20 variants and only a few are used in a typeface then but you still may want to access the rest with symbolic names -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: mimimal typescripting 2007-08-12 14:14 ` Hans Hagen @ 2007-08-12 15:20 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 2007-08-12 17:41 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-08-12 15:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: ntg-context-request@ntg.nl Dear Hans, I fully understand that such complex typescripts can be the only way to use full-featured professional fonts. But if I have only one ttf with one kind of typeface in it, should I write it all? XeTeX style was very appealing for many people, and verbose font definitions may distract these users. But anyway, thank you for escaping us from TeX-specific font hell :) Let me restate my question: is the following definition is really MINIMAL or it can be further reduced in some way? \starttypescript [serif] [vladimirscript] \definefontsynonym [Serif][name:vladimir][features=default] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [vladimirscript] \definetypeface [vladimirscript] [rm] [serif] [vladimirscript] [default] \stoptypescript \usetypescript[vladimirscript] \setupbodyfont [vladimirscript, 12pt] -- Best regards, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: mimimal typescripting 2007-08-12 15:20 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-08-12 17:41 ` Hans Hagen 2007-08-13 15:20 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-08-12 17:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Yatskovsky; +Cc: ntg-context-request@ntg.nl Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: > Dear Hans, > > I fully understand that such complex typescripts can be the only way to use full-featured professional fonts. But if I have only one ttf with one kind of typeface in it, should I write it all? XeTeX style was very appealing for many people, and verbose font definitions may distract these users. i dunno what xetex style means here, but \font\vladimirscript=name:vladimir*default at 12pt is as minimum as it can gets but normally you want to set up a whole bunch of related things > But anyway, thank you for escaping us from TeX-specific font hell :) > > Let me restate my question: is the following definition is really MINIMAL or it can be further reduced in some way? > > \starttypescript [serif] [vladimirscript] > \definefontsynonym [Serif][name:vladimir][features=default] > \stoptypescript > \starttypescript [vladimirscript] > \definetypeface [vladimirscript] [rm] [serif] [vladimirscript] [default] > \stoptypescript > > \usetypescript[vladimirscript] > \setupbodyfont > [vladimirscript, 12pt] \starttypescript [serif] [vladimirscript] \setups[font:fallback:serif] \definefontsynonym [Serif][name:vladimir][features=default] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [vladimirscript] \definetypeface [vladimirscript] [rm] [serif] [vladimirscript] [default] \stoptypescript \usetypescript[vladimirscript] \setupbodyfont[vladimirscript, 12pt] by adding the setups call, you make sure that your bold etc also uses the same font as fallback ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: mimimal typescripting 2007-08-12 17:41 ` Hans Hagen @ 2007-08-13 15:20 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 2007-08-14 5:52 ` Wolfgang Schuster 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-08-13 15:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: ntg-context-request@ntg.nl Hello Hans, Thank you for the example, it looks really minimal. :) But nevertheless I cannot make use of it! Should I use \setupbodyfont or other command or nothing then? (I tried some variants, none worked). I currently have this, small and ugly: :) %engine=luatex \starttext \font\vladimirscript=name:vladimir*default at 36pt \midaligned{This is my title to be in big vladimir font} \stoptext -- Best regards, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: mimimal typescripting 2007-08-13 15:20 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-08-14 5:52 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2007-08-14 10:35 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2007-08-14 5:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Yatskovsky, mailing list for ConTeXt users 2007/8/13, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky <yatskovsky@gmail.com>: > Hello Hans, > > Thank you for the example, it looks really minimal. :) > > But nevertheless I cannot make use of it! Should I use \setupbodyfont or other command or nothing then? (I tried some variants, none worked). I currently have this, small and ugly: :) > > %engine=luatex > \starttext > \font\vladimirscript=name:vladimir*default at 36pt \vladimirscript > \midaligned{This is my title to be in big vladimir font} > \stoptext > > -- > Best regards, > Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky You should also enable then font, it is not enough to define it only. Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: mimimal typescripting 2007-08-14 5:52 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2007-08-14 10:35 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 2007-08-14 13:17 ` Taco Hoekwater 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-08-14 10:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Wolfgang Schuster; +Cc: ntg-context-request@ntg.nl Hello Wolfgang, Thanks. It works! %engine=luatex \starttext \font\vladimirscript=name:vladimir*default at 36pt \vladimirscript \midaligned{This is my title to be in big vladimir font} \stoptext -- Best regards, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: mimimal typescripting 2007-08-14 10:35 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-08-14 13:17 ` Taco Hoekwater 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2007-08-14 13:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Yatskovsky, mailing list for ConTeXt users Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: > Hello Wolfgang, > > Thanks. It works! > If you want to get away from the bare \font command but not much more advanced, you can do this, which is a little shorter than your original definition: \starttypescript [serif] [vladimirscript] \definefontsynonym [Serif][name:vladimir][features=default] \stoptypescript \definetypeface [vladimirscript] [rm] [serif] [vladimirscript][default] \setupbodyfont [vladimirscript, 12pt] Best wishes, Taco ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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