Re: margins

["Peter I. Hansen" <peterih@gmail.com>]

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Wolfgang Schuster
<schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Peter I. Hansen <peterih@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >
>  > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm <hraban@fiee.net> wrote:
>  > > Am 2008-03-25 um 01:51 schrieb Joel C. Salomon:
>  > >
>  > > > In other words, you want large inner margins and small outer margins.
>  > >  >>  However, the standard behaviour seems to be the opposite.
>  > >  > For very good reason.  When a two-page spread is laid flat, it usually
>  > >  > looks best if the outer margins are both approximately equal in width
>  > >  > to the combined inner margins.  The default layout takes that into
>  > >  > account.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > While the binding of a book does "eat" some of the inner margin, it's
>  > >  > probably less than you think (IIRC, from ¼ʺ to ½ʺ, depending on
>  > >  > the
>  > >  > binding method), and often the print shop can correct for that.  (If
>  > >  > you need to be exact, measure against a book bound where your book
>  > >  > will be and in the same method.)
>  > >
>  > >  It depends on the binding method.
>  > >
>  > >  The traditional margin sizes are only good for thread-stitching.
>  > >  If your book's bound threadless (perfect binding, Wire-O etc.) your
>  > >  inner margins need to be bigger (not always bigger as the outer, but
>  > >  at least bigger than the traditional measures).
>  > >
>  > >  It's not only that the bookbinder mills away a few millimeters of the
>  > >  page - you can't open a adhesive bound book as much as a thread-
>  > >  stitched, so you need a wider gutter to be able to read the book
>  > >  without destroying the binding. (Or in case of spiral binding the
>  > >  holes for the wire need enough space.)
>  > >
>  > >  And if you need to send your PDF print-ready to your printshop (maybe
>  > >  books-on-demand maker), there's nobody else who will correct for that.
>  > >
>  > >  Insofar the OP's question is well justified.
>  > >  Even if he could have found the answer easily himself:
>  > >
>  > >  Of course you can define your page layout at will,
>  > >  see http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Layout
>  >
>  > Well, the information here does not solv my problem completely.
>  > The thing is, that while I do want the inner margins to be larger than
>  > the outer, my description also implies that the odd numbered pages are
>  > right pages, which is sometimes a requirement for printed books.
>  > I have tried to define the margins following the Layout section of the
>  > manual, but I can't figure out how to change that the odd pages are
>  > assumed to be left pages.
>
>  \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
>
>  \setuplayout
>   [backspace=4cm,
>    cutspace=2cm,
>    width=fit]
>
>  %\setuplayout
>  %  [backspace=4cm,
>  %   width=15cm]
>
>  \starttext
>  \dorecurse{100}{\input knuth\par}
>  \stoptext

Thanks Wolfgang, this works.

-Peter
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