From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/54723 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Park Nelson Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Chicago citations in endnotes; short titles in bibliographies Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:17:25 -0600 Message-ID: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1993748687==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259097519 10139 80.91.229.12 (24 Nov 2009 21:18:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:18:39 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Nov 24 22:18:32 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ND2le-00084u-2p for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:17:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709C0C9BD1; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:14:59 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id oOK4jl-3m472; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:14:55 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E57CC9B95; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:14:55 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E553C9B95 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:14:53 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id R-5ckBRh9xUW for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:14:42 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-yw0-f187.google.com (mail-yw0-f187.google.com [209.85.211.187]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34A4C9B03 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:14:41 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by ywh17 with SMTP id 17so6763200ywh.2 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:17:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=bemy4YDtHLi1CWoWFaK2q1CF1R1vVah/cQPxnDIUfVM=; b=ICMLNIgHHoceafxI+lAitD+y6D7EBe8KoDpm+GP6JTFVlZ19PzsMNwe0WkG5tBHYaw DcR1cfRh2xihdMuuMMDcCT2d61KGvRgHDfExZAksCRnhGBNs8jC/NkQa02h+GFNoYIkp 8wQ0SWjvvlffN+Co6KtcIISbZDJW6CagEtjfI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=HmTwf5oSwi85A/YqYOhTPHnMOuoodv+IKWdnB6PXmLvXn5vLatf2rHB6bH9ENFBAOH JwxggNrU0BRbLOzU4rHCJZHaPZWoHicNfELQ19Edlruid3u+067aT0wwU8dWQqvG5tgs HBVSkbJFHgsWCInvN5yxtw5vM6VLP1iIdzmFQ= Original-Received: by 10.91.19.4 with SMTP id w4mr1506874agi.0.1259097445960; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:17:25 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:54723 Archived-At: --===============1993748687== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f54790010c5e04792478db --001485f54790010c5e04792478db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was just looking at the documentation for the Bibliography module and wondering if anyone has tried to implement the full-on Chicago Manual of Style "Author-Title" documentation format for endnotes/footnotes in books -- i.e. citations of the form "Author, Full Title, Publisher, page" followed in subsequent references by "Author, Short Title, page" plus support for "Ibid," "op.cit," and so forth. Seems like this would be hard, but there are a lot of books out there that follow this style (at least in the U.S.), especially in history/social sciences. To do so would require supporting a "\shorttitle" field and adding mechanisms to keep track of what has been cited (in order to implement switching between full and shortened reference forms and enable ibid/op.cit. ). As an editor, this is probably beyond my technical abilities. Even so, if I wanted to mess around with this, where would I start learning about the internals of bibliography support in Context (beyond the documentation for the bib module)? Thanks, PPN -- Peter Park Nelson peter.park.nelson@gmail.com --001485f54790010c5e04792478db Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was just looking at the documentation for the Bibliography module and won= dering if anyone has tried to implement the full-on Chicago Manual of Style= "Author-Title" documentation format for endnotes/footnotes in bo= oks -- i.e. citations of the form "Author, Full Title, Publisher, page= " followed in subsequent references by "Author, Short Title, page= " plus support for "Ibid," "op.cit," and so forth.=

Seems like this would be hard, but there are a lot of books out there t= hat follow this style (at least in the U.S.), especially in history/social = sciences.

To do so would require supporting a "\shorttitle&quo= t; field and adding mechanisms to keep track of what has been cited (in ord= er to implement switching between full and shortened reference forms and en= able ibid/op.cit. ).

As an editor, this is probably beyond my technical abilities. Even so, = if I wanted to mess around with this, where would I start learning about th= e internals of bibliography support in Context (beyond the documentation fo= r the bib module)?

Thanks,
PPN
--
Peter Park Nelson
peter.park.nelson@gmail.com
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