Mailing list search software

Mailing list search software

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hi all,

After the ConTeXt meeting, we were inventorying the old sub-sites
of contextgarden.net, in preparation of one or two new ones to appear
within the next months. 

One thing that we used to have was a site that ran the “Lurker”
software, providing dedicated searching of the mailing list archives
for context-related mailing lists. That site is now gone (it was 
part of Patrick Gundlach’s server) and we are wondering whether
it makes sense to revive a site dedicated to mailing list searches.

And if people are indeed interested, we could use some advice on what 
software should we be using for the new site:

* Lurker has not been updated since 2009, making it a fairly bad choice.

* Mailman v2 has a horrible interface, and besides is not handling 
  long-running threads properly and has almost no support for attachments.

* Mailman v3 uses HyperKitty as replacement for pipermail. The output 
  looks promising, but it is a Django application meant to be tightly
  integrated with the actual mailman instance (at least that is my 
  understanding?)

Surely there must be something better out there? Or maybe we should not
care at all and use Google indexing only like we do now on the wiki?

Best wishes,

Taco
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Re: Mailing list search software

[Jan U. Hasecke]

Am 03.10.2016 um 15:03 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:
> Hi all,
> 
> After the ConTeXt meeting, we were inventorying the old sub-sites
> of contextgarden.net, in preparation of one or two new ones to appear
> within the next months. 
> 
> One thing that we used to have was a site that ran the “Lurker”
> software, providing dedicated searching of the mailing list archives
> for context-related mailing lists. That site is now gone (it was 
> part of Patrick Gundlach’s server) and we are wondering whether
> it makes sense to revive a site dedicated to mailing list searches.
> 
> And if people are indeed interested, we could use some advice on what 
> software should we be using for the new site:
> 
> * Lurker has not been updated since 2009, making it a fairly bad choice.
> 
> * Mailman v2 has a horrible interface, and besides is not handling 
>   long-running threads properly and has almost no support for attachments.
> 
> * Mailman v3 uses HyperKitty as replacement for pipermail. The output 
>   looks promising, but it is a Django application meant to be tightly
>   integrated with the actual mailman instance (at least that is my 
>   understanding?)
> 
> Surely there must be something better out there? Or maybe we should not
> care at all and use Google indexing only like we do now on the wiki?

Recently I saw people using
https://www.sympa.org

From my point of view this is a solution for big mailinglists, but maybe
you will find someone running an installation free for open source projects.

juh
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Re: Mailing list search software

[Mojca Miklavec]

On 3 October 2016 at 15:44, Jan U. Hasecke wrote:
> Am 03.10.2016 um 15:03 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:
>
>> Surely there must be something better out there? Or maybe we should not
>> care at all and use Google indexing only like we do now on the wiki?
>
> Recently I saw people using
> https://www.sympa.org
>
> From my point of view this is a solution for big mailinglists, but maybe
> you will find someone running an installation free for open source projects.

Having a free installation is not an issue. Sympa *is* opensource. But
it serves as a replacement for the whole Mailman installation rather
than just an interface for accessing the archives.

Mojca
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Re: Mailing list search software

[Jan U. Hasecke]

Am 03.10.2016 um 15:56 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
> Having a free installation is not an issue. Sympa *is* opensource. But
> it serves as a replacement for the whole Mailman installation rather
> than just an interface for accessing the archives.

Yes it is a replacement for Mailman. I understood Tacos mail in this way.

If it is only about search capabilities maybe a search engine like Solr
is a candidate.

juh
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